How to plug into a standard 220V outlet?

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  1. delz

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    My work facility has agreed to set up a parking spot for plug-in EVs and would prefer to install a standard 220V outlet over a 120V one.

    How would I plug my car into this? Do I need a new cable or adapter?
    Or are we stuck with a 120V outlet?
     
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    You would need a new cable. The one that comes with the car is 110 only. Unless they are being generous and also install a level 2 charging station, then that would have its own cable you plug directly into your car.
     
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    Where can I get such a cable?
     
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    For the time been, your company maintenance dept could also provide an 110VAC outlet at the same time and you will be ready for now and the future connections.
     
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    There's also a company that will modify your Toyota cable to handle 240V. I see it discussed some in this thread.

    I'd wonder if there are incentives that would make it fairly inexpensive for your employer to install a J1772 charger.
     
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    I've been searching for these, but didn't see any good incentives. I have a harder case in that I'm the only person with a plug-in vehicle at my company so far.
     
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    Check with the company that supplies power to the building.
     
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    It will be almost $1000 for another cable for 220V, although for $250 they modify your existing cable to use 220V.
     
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    I think thats the route I'd take if I were in delz's shoes.
     
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    if you have your cable coverted to 240v, i think you will need 240 at home as well, unless it will do both after the conversion? but you will charge in half the time.
     
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    Once converted it works on 120V or 240V, you just need a $15 cable adapter to use it with 120V...
     
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  12. Are you saying that if you put 220 to the standard box and cable it can not handle that? I thought the car could take either voltage. On a coincident thread I was just discussing simply transforming the house current to 220.
     
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    the car can take it. The OEM adapter cannot. As others have said, it needs to be adapted internally to handle 220 volts. Then it will be able to handle either.
     
  14. What does the cable adapter do exactly, adapt to two 110 legs?
     
  15. It is strange that this adaptation to either voltage was not built in, or is it the physical difference in the two types of plugs? Three wire VS two wire?
     
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    To be more precise, the OEM EVSE (aka brick that's part of the charging cord set) can't handle 220 volts without changes. Using an adapter and 220+ volts without changes to the brick will blow it.
     
  17. TY, Toyota could have done better there.
     
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    As could've Nissan. There's been some discussion on MNL about revolving around National Electrical Codes as to why this wasn't done. I wish I could find the threads... it was along the lines of it being prohibited (?) NEC by to have 208+ volt portable/mobile electrical devices.

    I think pEEf (Ingineer) even some statement that our country is afraid of electricity and (IIRC) this the reason for the above.

    My Nissan Leaf Forum • View topic - My L1 ESVE findings..... sorta describes what he had to do to come up with the upgrade to the Leaf's Panasonic L1 EVSE. There might be better posts elsewhere on MNL.

    At the meeting I was at w/pEEf, the Leaf's chief vehicle engineer, Mark Perry and a bunch of other Nissan folks, pEEf himself at the podium expressed his wishes for Nissan to ship w/an EVSE that can handle both voltages and plug into various 208-240 volt sources (e.g. dryer outlets), even though it would put his upgrade businesses out of businesses.

    I think some of the questions here would be answered by reading the FAQ at EVSE Upgrade - Products.

    edit: I think these were some of the threads where people were discussing the first topic.
    My Nissan Leaf Forum • View topic - Why is the 240V charging station hardwired ? The answer is..
    My Nissan Leaf Forum • View topic - We need a portable 240v EVSE
    My Nissan Leaf Forum • View topic - NEC definitely allows cord-and-plug connected 240V EVSEs

    edit: To amend my comment about 208+ volt mobile electronics in the US, someone else's post reminded me about universal voltage AC adapters and power supplies in computers. Perhaps it has something to do w/amperage since AC adapters and laptop power supplies are pretty low wattage (and amperage) vs. an EV. Desktop PC power supplies can get really high though.

    However, NONE of these in the US ship with a cord that can plug into a 240 volt outlet (such as one you find for your dryer).
     
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    The adapter is just to give you a standard 120V plug on one end, the other end is an L6-20R receptacle to connect to the modified EVSE, it's just so you can physically plug it in to a 120V outlet, as the EVSE comes back with a 240V plug on it, after conversion by evseupgrade.com (comes back with an L6-20P male plug)

    EVSE Upgrade - Products
     
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  20. TY, It seems all sort of backwards. Should one go the 220 route, now you have an extra cord, of little use.
     
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