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Hydrogenated vegetable oil or butter?

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by burritos, Mar 27, 2012.

  1. burritos

    burritos Senior Member

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    Love both. Taste buds just love fat. I figure chemically altering veggie/corn oil doesn't torture as many animals. So "almost butter" wins for me.
     
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    It may taste like butter, but hydrogenated oil is different enough chemically to give your body problems after you swallow it. All hydrogenated oils are a source for trans fats. It the container claims to have zero, take a real close look at the serving size. How people have gotten 20+ servings out of the small container of Cool Whip?
     
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    Butter for me, too. While we've got a long way to go toward ethical treatment of animals, real food is far better for the local environment (me) than fake crap. Despite the labelling on Cool Whip, an 'edible oil product' it's not. Ick.

    I eat sugar, too. None of that 'artificial sweetener' junk. I consider Aspartame to be a poison.
     
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    Whats the difference they are both (pufa) industrial seed oils the lead to inflammation and cancer. Switching to Coconut oil, grass fed Ghee, and animal fats have led to a dramatic turn around in almost all of my metabolic markers.

    Heres a study on the topic:

    fats - health
     
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    Hydrogenated fat AKA Trans fat is unhealthy, as much or perhaps more than cholesterol.
     
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    Butter and real sugar...i stay away from aspartame, don't care what the FDA says about it. I try to eat natural most of the time, the fewer additives the better.
     
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    ...we use Promis Active, formerly known as Take Control, which the label says is veggie oils (not hydrogenated) and plant sterol esters. The plant sterol esters lower colesterol, so that is why we use it. Also zero trans fats. This stuff is expensive cheapest is $3.80 at Walmart. It is similar to Benecol but we always liked the Promis Activ much better. Hope they keep making it but getting harder to find.
     
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    I remember my mom frying up Chicken ... or taters in lard ... Yum yum. So how come THAT's not on the choice list for this thread?
    ;)

    Here's one you can 'explain for me. How come the Eskimo (with their historical diet of blubber and such ... and certainly not much fiber to speak of) tribe's cholesterol averages are notoriously average? I do love me some whale blubber.
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    Maybe 'cause they're out there in the frigid landscape hunting whales whilst we sit on our comfortable office chairs in a climate-controlled office, in easy reach of the Skittles?

    Just thinking out-loud here...
     
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    Eskimo? Tsk tsk. :rolleyes:

    Inuit peoples live in a climate so cold that most of us would consider it uninhabitable. Consequently, their bodies tend to burn more fat than 'normal', just to stay warm. It doesn't sit around clogging their arteries.
     
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    I'm not sure about cool whip, but less than 0.5 grams and they can say no transfats. Peanut butter is one of those things with just under 0.5 grams. Fully hydrogenated vegatable oil has no trans fat, but is very hard, so they mix it with non hydrogenated oils and volla:D transfat free. Fully hydrogenated oil is a saturated fat, and if you eat more saturated fats than you burn its bad for you:eek: That's whether its cool whip or butter.

    Now why is this in the environmental thread.
     
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    They also tend to die IIRC 10 years younger than canadians on a typical canadian diet including more plants that live near by. I guess if you want to follow a diet and lifestyle that leads to fewer heart attacks but earlier death you can follow the inuit example. Genetics also likely plays a part.
     
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    No thanks. I admire their strength and tenacity, but it's a very rough life, with daily dangers I'm simply not prepared to face. I was just explaining how their typical diet seems to work for their lifestyle.
     
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    ...if you look under Wikipedia Blubber it says it is very healthy food.
    The 70-yrs old who ate whale and seal have arteries that look like 20-yrs olds.
     
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    Maybe they use whale butter.
     
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    do not know why it's environmental. But in conducting research for this thread, looked at some spread labels tonite at the grocery store. Looks like they have gone with pure veggie oils in many cases now.
    So this avoids the partially hydrogenated transfats.

    Palm oil for example, is quite saturated so it is waxey even though it is relatively low carbon number C16's (vs. C18's in most oils). Good for margarine I presume. This is a problem with biodiesel made from palm oil, it is waxier, probably OK for warmer climates.
     
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    Pure peanut butter contains no trans fats. However, many popular brands add other processed vegetable oils that do contain small amounts of trans fats.

    Tom
     
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    There is a tiny amount of trans fat in non processed food. The amount in milk, IIRC, is the basis of the legal limit for claiming zero trans fat on the label. It's based on serving size, though. So a company can just lower that on the label until they can say zero, and wa la, a tub is enough for all the fishes and loaves. While being trans fat free despite prominant use of hydrogenated oils in the ingredient list.