2x4s were commonly used to get a mule's attention, or so they say. Unfortunately, I can no longer ask my late father for conformation. However, I can reliably report that goats are excellent gifts for those you dislike, because they are great wreakers of damage. They'll eat almost anything, and their sharp hooves are better than hail. And no, I have never given anyone a goat. I don't know anyone who could take care of one. Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.