I sell Toyotas. I bought a Prime.

Discussion in 'Prime Main Forum (2017-Current)' started by OpusFuller, Jul 24, 2018.

  1. OpusFuller

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    So I am a Toyota sales rep and yesterday (7-23-18) I traded in my 2017 Toyota Corolla XSE with 13k miles and purchased a 2018 Prime Premium. I would have liked the advanced but $3k extra for the HUD and sensors, etc. Wasnt worth it to me.

    All I can say is wow! It's one thing learning the inventory and taking this out for test drives but it's another thing owning it as a personal vehicle.

    My commute is 21.5 miles each way for work. Yesterday I was getting 60mpg on the way home. I was getting 28 in my corolla. And I haven't even used EV mode to run strictly off the battery.

    I got a good deal, good trade, and had about 4k in equity from my corolla and with the IRS tax credit, it's a no brainer. Plus you get extra rebates living in the state of PA. There's a $750 rebate and another $50 rebate that I've found so far that I need to apply for. It's basically like they're paying me to own this vehicle.

    Also to add, I was filling up around once a week on the Corolla. 30 dollars per fill up. I'll probably fill up once a month on this Prime and run the battery most of the time. That's about 90 dollars in savings there.

    Just wanted to post my experience as a Prime owner. I always talk these things up when I am selling Toyotas but never thought I would own one let alone own a hybrid. But now I am a proud owner.
     
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    So, you're surprised the sales pitch actually turned out to be the truth?
     
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    Welcome to the site and to Prime ownership. If your commute is ~22 one way, charge at work and depending on speed and retraining your brain/foot, you could be essentially gas free. Be ware, EV driving is very addictive.
     
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    I'm just the opposite. I'm looking forward to seeing the redesigned 2020 Corolla, and might trade my Prius. Just make sure you add windshield repair/replacement to your Prime insurance policy.

    How did you like your Corolla? Have you heard anything about Corolla windshields cracking? I hope Toyota doesn't screw up the redesign.
     
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    Addictive? :)....yes it is. I feel like unless my car has sufficient electricity, ...egads, I have to drive using gas? Really? ... But I am thankful for the gas for it allows me to venture far far away, as a strict EV does not.

    Welcome to the Toyota Prius/prime world...
     
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    I liked the corolla a lot. But I'm 6 ft 3 and it was a little strenuous on leg room on my commute to work. I've worked in sales for toyota for 2 years and haven't heard anything or seen anything about cracked windshield. Nothing to warrant me to do a separate warranty. I've had training on the new corolla. The hatch is the one coming out. Really nice. Apple car play. Alexa connectivity. And toyota safety sense 2.0 which is a nice upgrade.

    Again. For me personally the gas mileage on the prime is a better decision for me and I had an xse corolla with everything in it. Only thing I gave up was a moonroof. I wouldnt buy a corolla in a lesser trim but that's just me if you're considering a corolla. If you have a 17 prime I'd keep it.

    I just need to figure out my electricity cost for the prime charging at home. I'm paying .0769 per kwh so to charge my prime fully?? Hmmm.
     
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    Welcome. It is an amazing car and I think you would have enjoyed the Advanced. I can't imagine driving anything else now. PRIME ON !!!
     
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    congrats and welcome, all the best!(y)
     
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    Welcome to the wonderful world of PHEVs. Given your 21.5-mile commute, it seems like the Prime was designed with you in mind.

    However, you should try running in ECO and EV mode. You can charge the Prime easily overnight at home and if you can find a place to charge it somewhere near work, you'll be all set. (Based on another PriusChat discussion thread, I understand that Toyota dealerships generally have no place to charge a Prime. ;) )
     
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    That's all I run. Eco and EV mode. Instill have yet to use a spec of gas and I had this since Monday. I used 60% battery on my 21.5 mile trip home. So still have 40% left.

    I charge at work from an outlet. Free free free. 7 cents per kwh is my bill so I guess I'm literally paying like 21 cents to top of my battery overnight? Insane!

    Definitely perfect car for my commute. At this rate I'll never have to fill it with gas.... does gas go bad?! Haha
     
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    So now you can educate your fellow sales reps :) Based on experiences many people have had there seems to be a lack of knowledge about the Prime among Toyota salespeople nationwide, although I suppose it is improving. Understandable to some extent since the car is still relatively new, very different, and somewhat of a niche product at the moment. At a minimum maybe you can convince your co-workers to keep the Primes they have in stock charged up, which is another thing that people have run into either on the test drive or when they purchase their car.
     
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    $.0769 per kwh is cheap. Charge it at home, and charge it at work. With your 22 mile drive expect 4 to 5 hours to charge at 120 volts. If the dealership has a 240 volt charging point they'll let you use (as a great sales demonstration), the charge time will be less than half that. You'll never buy gas again! Well, maybe, if the winter is so cold that you need the engine for more heat than the heat pump provides.

    Do run in EV mode. The car is so smart that it'll switch itself to HV when it needs to do it. Whether you use ECO or Normal or PWR accelerator sensitivity is up to your personal preference. If you have a hilly drive to work, try EV Auto mode; let us know the difference.
     
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    @ 7 cents per kW and 6.3 to 6.6 kWh to full charge from empty, that's about 44 cents, or a little above.
     
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    Yeah, operating cost just blows my mind. 44 cents a day to run this vehicle. The other half of the day I charge it via a wall outlet at my workplace!
     
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    I run it in EV mode every single time. Still have yet to use a blip of gas. I drive Eco Mode and EV Mode. If I'm running around local around home and a full charge, I'll switch to power mode since I'll be able to top it off when I get back home. Thing has some major power!

    I have yet to try EV Auto Mode. And my commute is half hills and half highway. would be a good test to try and report back.

    ***I'm a Toyota sales rep in Pittsburgh PA. If anyone is local and are interested in getting a prime. Direct Message me!!! I'll be happy to help you purchase this beautiful vehicle.
     
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    Welcome to the club! You will find that the awesome community here is another bonus to owning a Prius.

    I have been on many auto forums in the past and this is one of the very best. (y)
     
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    DavidA Prius owner since July 2009

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    Just please do something for all of us here and future prospective EV, PHEV customers...

    Please, please please try to convince dealerships and salespeople to consider stocking, learning and selling this car before Toyota becomes part of past that used to only sell the gassers and never really got on board with modern tech and transportation. The way Lexus/Toyota upper management has been talking FUD on EV's lately, it makes me 80% certain than my next car will not be, or never again be another Toyota or Lexus.
     
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    I've been thinking that, by now, Toyota must have a tremendous amount of "big data" about how the Primes are being driven and maintained. The Primes have been producing a constant flow of data upstream, some of which is used for customers' Entune reports and probably even more for Toyota's engineering and marketing teams. And this information can be integrated with dealership sales and service information to provide a robust portrait of those customers who have purchased Primes.

    While Toyota may use this information to decide that there is no future for Toyota in the plug-in space, it's also possible that it will shape Toyota's product strategy for its entire product line.

    Right now, everyone playing in the electric vehicle space is just feeling around trying to understand the market. The design and marketing of conventional gasoline vehicles is pretty well understood after more than a century of experience -- and the auto companies still launch their share of losers within their product lines. Getting comfortable with EVs is going to take a little time, especially as consumer desires and acceptance evolve, thus presenting a moving target.
     
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    Can you give me any specific examples? At my dealership specifically the sales staff is pretty knowledgable on product. That's not to say we dont say "I can find that out for you" from time to time but overall, our sales team is pretty well knowledgable! What experience have you had?
     
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    first thing is to make sure you have a demo charged and ready. does your dealership have an L2 EVSE?
     
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