If you're not part of the solution, then you're a part of the problem!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mirza @ Feb 11 2007, 06:12 PM) [snapback]388680[/snapback]</div>

What do you expect from a lobbiest who regularly takes money form tobacco and oil companies!

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mirza @ Feb 11 2007, 08:09 PM) [snapback]388647[/snapback]</div>

Too bad you feel cornered and have to resort to name calling, the internet equivalent of raising the white flag. I do understand your evident frustrations as more and more solid evidence points to the myth of AGW.

Tsk-tsk, wonder how long before I am compared to Hitler. Not quite sure of your seemingly altruistic reference to Muslims (do they have an AGW agenda?), but I can assure you they are looking for no sympathies from anyone (yes, even you) this side of the Atlantic.

I think we can all say with confidence your arguments are "out of gas".

Rick

#4 2006

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(viking31 @ Feb 11 2007, 03:39 PM) [snapback]388527[/snapback]</div>

The oil companies or automakers have acknowledged global warming and are working on either alternatives that would transition away from oil or improve efficiency in cars because they've been called out.

Even after acknowledging that there is a problem with global warming, these industries are frantically trying to delay the inevitability of their own irrelevance... part of that is the astroturf that you've stumbled upon that claims that global warming is a myth.

They are trying to make nice with all of the critics, while at the same time, funding sciastitutes and other groups to astroturf about how global warming is a myth to give them a few more decades to make the rest of the money they can out of the little oil that's left in the ground.

Trying to spin the intentions of the people trying to solve global warming by saying they're motivated by money primarily is just disingenuous, especially compared to the two-facedness of the oil companies.

Sure, money is a motivation, but there's nothing wrong with that. This is capitalism, isn't it? I am a big believer that if the US can get out ahead in investing in alternative energy and other solutions, we'll maintain our economic lead, rather than lose it. We can fund a new Manhattan project... It's a win-win, in my book... we'll save the world, save civilization, and we'll also make money off of the new industries that an alternative energy future will stimulate.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(LaughingMan @ Feb 14 2007, 01:49 AM) [snapback]390083[/snapback]</div>

This is what I don't get. Why wouldn't we want to be at the forefront of a massively disruptive technology? There are security, environmental/public health, and financial/economic benefits. Any one of them is huge but combined they really should be a massive incentive.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(viking31 @ Feb 11 2007, 02:39 PM) [snapback]388527[/snapback]</div>

That is because the UN is the UNITED NATIONS not the United States. The UN is there to promote what is best for the ENTIRE world not just the rich nations of the world. Some seem to think that just because the UN doesn't rubber stamp every proposal the US makes that they aren't doing there job. On the contrary that is their job. The US and other wealthy nations don't need the UN to promote our interest, we self-promote quite well.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jhinton @ Feb 19 2007, 09:57 PM) [snapback]393136[/snapback]</div>

Exactly!

Some people are so ethnocentric it is amazing.