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Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by hycamguy07, Feb 18, 2007.

  1. F8L

    F8L Protecting Habitat & AG Lands

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(desynch @ Feb 23 2007, 09:17 AM) [snapback]395246[/snapback]</div>

    Ohh I forgot, you are a religious guy.

    Regardless, the comment was disrespectful and obviously didn't need to be written. So yeah, your bad.
     
  2. desynch

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    The truth can be ugly. Some people just have no moral convictions.

    The truth can be ugly. Some people just have no moral convictions.
     
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    Funny, but true. Here is a more serious one:

    "In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

    Theodore Roosevelt 1907
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(desynch @ Feb 23 2007, 01:14 PM) [snapback]395453[/snapback]</div>
    You impart your personal idea of morals on someone else. Arrogance and disrespect is much uglier in this incident.
     
  5. desynch

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(F8L @ Feb 23 2007, 05:35 PM) [snapback]395464[/snapback]</div>
    You mean like being a gun-grabber? Like, trying to impose un-Constitutional laws on law-abiding citizens regarding types of firearms they can and cannot have, regulated or not?

    Yeah, that is pretty damn arrogant and disrespectful - to me, to you, and to every soldier/Countryman that has died for this country and its Constitution.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(desynch @ Feb 23 2007, 01:14 PM) [snapback]395453[/snapback]</div>
    Actually, every human being has moral convictions. It's one of the universal characteristics of humanity.

    The problem is that some people fail to acknowledge the cultural differences between different social and national groups, and believe deeply that their own moral code is the only legitimate one. This view is known as moral absolutism, and is common among fundamentalist religions.

    Since America was founded upon the ideal of religious freedom, it is un-American to insist that your own moral code is the only legitimate one, and/or to try to supress other moral systems, as different religious traditions have different moral codes. Some moral assertions tend to be shared by many or all traditions, but sexual prudishness is a moral value that many religious traditions do not share.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(daniel @ Feb 23 2007, 07:36 PM) [snapback]395520[/snapback]</div>
    Hence the epidemic proportions of people infected with one type of STD or another..
     
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