Interesting Hybrid vs Tesla consumption conclusion

That's why the math always gets hairy and other factors get dragged in.

There are many good reasons to get a BEV, but "saving the owner money" isn't quite a slam-dunk yet.

 

Welcome other factor #1: Where you charge!

 

And - since you can't build a fossil fuel Refinery & underground fuel pump system in your backyard or garage, whereas you can put solar on your roof .... many people Charge EV's for free.
The real question is why compare a model X (much less the performance version) against a Prius. Much more likely, apples to apples would be a Tesla Mosel 3 versus Prius ..... or on the larger end, Highlander Hybrid vs. Model X.
But ....
a, "Performance" Prius?
LOTS of mods will get you 9.38 seconds in the ¼ mile.

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Whereas a modified but street legal model S can pull 8's in the ¼ mile

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Apples to apples

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Right question, wrong answer. Both Toyota and Tesla (and virtually every other automaker) have worked very hard to make certain that no apples-to-apples comparison is possible. You're only fooling yourself when you try to force it.

 

No, hybrid is better on your pocket, not mine.

50 miles driven around home costs me $0.25 in an EV.
It would cost me $4.00 in a Prius.

There are far too many variables to claim the cost, in general, is higher or lower.
If you want to generalize you need to use averages, which then looses most meaning for those that don’t have average gas & electric prices.

 

Right, for YOU.
Your final statement was that a hybrid is easier on other people’s pockets.
I am simply saying that isn’t necessarily true and gave an example of my real world costs.

 

Yes, a Prius forum - where you compare to another manufacturer, the Model S.
That said, as of last year there have been over 40,000 model 3s sold in the UK (out of over 90,000 S, 3, & X). How odd - that anyone would not notice Tesla's largest seller, the 3, & thus only be able to compare apples to oranges.
I did a semester at Cambridge & noticed how popular bicycles were. So maybe the next apples to oranges comparison should be bicycles versus Prius.

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A Tesla Model X Performance is not really a good comparison with a Prius. The model X is much larger and would make a better comparison with a large SUV. The Performance version is even more of a stretch - you're comparing a vehicle that can carry seven people and do 0-60 mph in less than 3 seconds with another that carries 5 people and is three times slower.

A better comparison is the Tesla Model y long range that uses 28kWh/100 mile. That would cost about £54.

Meanwhile the cost for fuel for the Prius in the UK currently is going to be more like £60 with current fuel prices.

kevin

 

I suspect they are not "Performance" models, just the standard dual motor.

They will be dual motor as Tesla doesn't really make the single motor RWD version any more.

kevin

 

It's been done. The total cost of ownership (averaging $25,000 for a hospital birth in some areas) plus several years of feeding, medical expenses, etc before the cyclist can even ride a bike... Then there's the cost of food and housing and repairs for that 500 mile ride posited by the OP. Nope, a bicycle is not necessarily cheaper than a hybrid.

The Tesla Performance may be faster for the first 3 seconds, and yet, in a 500 mile race, the Prius will reach the finish line first. Its been done. Restrict both cars to the legal speed limit and it's a no brainer; The Tesla comes out as more expensive to buy, more expensive to run and slower to complete the task.

 

A Prius is cheaper than a Range Rover or a Ferrari and will be just as fast.

Most people charge their EVs at home where, even in the UK, the price per kWh is half what was used in the OP's calculation. That would put the running costs of even a Model X lower than a Prius, a Model 3/Y would be even lower. And that's not counting the frequent servicing costs of the Prius.

I have both a Tesla Model 3 and a Prius Gen 4.

kevin

 

As maligned and as artificial of a metric as it is, the US EPA’s MPGe is pretty useful in these sorts of comparisons. Basically it gives you an MPG equivalent for electricity at 12 cents/kWh. So if you see an EV with 100 MPGe, fuel costs are kinda/sorta hard as expensive as a Prius averaging 50 MPG.