Ioniq 5 Fast Charging Analysis

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  1. Tideland Prius

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    A detailed analysis from InsideEVs on the charging curve and times of the Ioniq 5.

    Hyundai Ioniq 5 Amazes: Real Fast Charging Session Data Analyzed


    The benefit of the E-GMP platform from Hyundai is the 800V architecture that allows higher peak power and higher average power during DCFC charging.

     
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    Try to find some of these 200kw+ stations on the various charge company websites. Best case - less than 10 nation wide . . . yet manufacturers are bragging as though they had over 1,000 as Tesla has in north america alone. Maybe in a few more years.
    Good for Hyundai - making it possible - but it'd be great to see 'em Pony up for more infrastructure. Otherwise the ionic 5 won't be charging to 80% in under 19 minutes .... it' ll be be over 2x more time on that (typical) 50kW stand alone appliance ... presuming it's even running, or not occupied by another EV, or ICE'd.
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    Hyundai is building their own “E Pit” charging stations in South Korea. Their cable is hung from above and will rotate depending on where you tell the station your car’s charging port is, then it’ll lower the cable for you to plug in. Charging status is available on the overhead rotating unit so you can see which car is close to full from the road.

    Up here in Canada, Petro Canada is installing 350kW chargers at their stations so we have two options (Petro Can or Electrify Canada). Just like Tesla, they are strategically placed along the highway or across metro areas.


    Also, I am shocked at the complaints from Americans about broken or inoperable stations. In Canada, (or at least in my province), they’re usually up and running and if anything is broken, it’s fixed rapidly (and the station owner updates the status on PlugShare).
     
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    I think the broken/vandalized complaints mostly stem from free Level 2 chargers. If the owner isn't making money off it directly, fixing it isn't a priority.
     
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    I realize YouTube videos cherry pick the problem but the ones that do, were charging at DCFC.
     
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    DC/QC's .... they DO get hit.

    One east coast driver reports;
    Supercharger vandalism and dead chargers — Tesla Forums

    Rout to Vegas - here's the main (heavy padlocked) transformer room for 12 stalls - wires pulled & breakers stolen.

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    Here's one we stopped at in San Juan Capistrano one visit;

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    Take a baseball bat to electrical appliance? It just seldom makes the news. Many locations now have CCTV because of this.
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    I see 496 CCS stations above 200kW listed on PlugShare.

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    And 306 Supercharger stations rated the same way:

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