It happened. Flat tire. No spare. In middle of Nowhere.

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  1. The Electric Me

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    Well, two things.
    I don't like to present something as a scientific fact, when it isn't. This was my own singular experience, one time, almost 30 years ago.
    The first time it happened (flat) I ignored it, as a "act of god" happening. But then it just kept happening, and NOT the same tire.
    I just got frustrated with the reality. It's horrible to have a new vehicle, that you worry about driving, because you're afraid there is a pretty good chance you'll get a flat.

    Secondly, all I can really say, is I replaced with a set of Michelin tires, and immediately the reoccurring flats stopped.

    Luck?
    Coincidence?

    Maybe.

    I also will admit the OEM tires on my 2010 Honda Fit, My 2013 Prius, and now my 2016 Honda Fit, seemed to be much better. After 3 years, I'm getting close to needing new tires for my Fit, but they've been OK.
    I think maybe times have changed. I think there was a time when manufacturers just gave you the cheapest tire they could. I think today, tire manufacturers know that it's their reputation on the line, whether you are buying a 1st new set of tires, or driving off the lot with OEM tires.

    I can't remember now what OEM tires I had on the Prius,...I want to say Goodyear Fuel Max- but they were fine after 3 years, when I traded it in.
    And I believe I have Firestone on my Fit now, and they have been fine. Even though I'm approaching needing to think about replacement sometime in the next year, based on tire wear.
     
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    I tried out the OEM jack, too, just to make sure it was OK. Didn't have any real problems although it did leave quite a bit to be desired.
     
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    :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

    Any pics of your last knackered one:whistle:?

    I did dodge one falling off of a pickup the other day:eek:.

    That was pretty knackered(y).
     
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    Perhaps the original set of tires had simply removed all the nails from the road.:cool:

    I'm sure a tire's ability to pick up debris and resist puncture varies between models. They are made with different treads and materials. The tire pressure may play a part.
     
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    I have not found this to be the case. 2006 Honda Civic - OEM Turanza 400 were terrible. Performed poorly and wore quickly. Replaced with Michelins. 2011 VW Jetta - came with the same OEM tires as the Civic - I didn't even wait for this set to wear out, and replaced them with Michelins. 2010 Honda Fit - OEM tires not very good (terrible in both wet and snow). 2018 Prius Prime - Toyo NanoEnergy A29. Now at 9,600 miles and the jury is still out.

    On the other hand, my 2006 MX-5 came with very nice Michelin Preceda summer tires. When I replaced them, that tire wasn't available so I moved to the Pilot Super Sports which are even better. Our 2010 Outback also came with nice tires (Bridgestones, I think). Got over 61K miles from them and replaced just a bit early when Michelins came on a good sale.
     
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    Keep in mind...I'm admitting this is a singular case from nearly 30 years ago. I do think things have changed.
    I'm talking about an "animal" that doesn't exist anymore. That is a bare bones, 4 cylinder, small pick-up, that at the time I purchased it, Nissan sold for less than $7000....brand new. It didn't even come with a back bumper, I had to pony up $500 more, to have one put on.

    I had two of those small pick-ups in a 4 year span, traded one in on the other. And I loved them both. They were great. ......uh...by todays standards pretty unsafe, but for a young person, financially limited, it was great, usable transportation, with the reliability of being brand new...for a relatively cheap purchase price. Nothing really like it exists today. Nothing can. The first one, didn't even have airbags. They both had bench seats. You couldn't sell them today.

    And as bare bones as those trucks were? I'm sure Nissan wasn't putting the best OEM tires on them.
    Today? I think that has changed.
     
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    I would not be confident in this assertion. Manufacturers still have a drive to put the product out the door for the least money, and the last thing consumers look at on a new car is the tires (unless it's a performance car). So, every dollar saved on an OEM tire is a dollar of potential profit.

    I had a 1984 Toyota 2WD diesel 5-speed long bed truck, and it got so many flats I just left the spare in the bed and didn't bother slinging it underneath where it belonged.
     
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    Hey, it was a $7000 dollar truck....brand new. I'm pretty confident Nissan wasn't putting the best OEM tires on them. As I said, they weren't even putting a back bumper on them.
    No radio, no bucket seats, no air conditioning, no stereo/radio. The profit margin had to be nearly non-existent.
    According to crash tests at the time, it was a ladder framed death trap.

    But at 20 something years old? Saving up for something reliable?
    I bought one.
    I loved it's spartan, no nonsense reality.
    And I'm willing to go out on that limb and say my ownership experience wasn't a fluke....the tires they put on them when they sold it to you? Weren't the best.
     
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    Today I plonked on the donut spare for hah hahs, as I figured it'd be better to sort it all out on a sunny summer afternoon rather than during a blizzard in January... n'est pas? And yes, the jack IS crappy but does suffice, the lift points are not the easiest to get at without laying on the ground and, when putting the original wheel back on I had a greater appreciation for Mercedes style lug bolts (which include an install tool upon which the tire is hung, negating the need to fidget around getting lug nuts started on the short studs). All in all, a worthwhile endeavor.
     
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    That's why I carry a couple of old bath towels in the back. Air temp is 103° here today. Imagine the asphalt temp, or hard gravel or sleet/snow cover.
     
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    Bicycle tires, yes. But car tires?

    During the week's bicycle event in Eastern Washington, I assisted several riders with flats from goatheads. In goathead territory (reached midway through the event), we tell them to ride as close to the vehicle tracks as practical, because car-truck tires tend to grind up and de-weaponize the spikes. Get too far off the shoulder, and the evil things are more pristine and numerous and destructive.

    I think the reason is different. Most human-made sharp debris is initially laying flat, so that is how the front tire hits it. Then it gets kicked up into random orientation, with the rear tire striking it before it can settle down flat again. So the rear tires encounter a lot more points-up sharp objects.
     
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    We keep a movers blanket in the back... comes in handy for a myriad of uses.
     
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