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It's time to consider reinstating Pete Rose as a candidate to the MLB Hall of Fame

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  1. SageBrush

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    Honestly, I have trouble grasping the American/Christian ideal of 'forgiveness', probably because I am neither, and more often than not forgiveness is simply a hypocritical stance to advance an agenda. I am reminded of the recent pope and his butler: FIRST, track the SOB down and throw him in jail. THEN forgive him ;)

    Pete Rose: Gambling by participants in the sport corrupt and lessen the sport. Those are not the actions of a great participant. Sportspeople who are liars and slanderers are not great participants of a sport. Sportspeople who lessen their community are not people I wish to remember, or show for posterity to emulate.
     
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    Do you mean rampant ? ;)
     
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    JMD 2012 Prius 4 Solar Roof

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    I rewrote it. IPad sell checker auto corrects to something wrong :)

    I should be barred from baseball because let's face it mistakes are unrecoverable (Sarcastic)
     
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    Rose was stupid enough to bet on baseball despite the decades old rules against it. He knew the consequences and is now dealing with it. I'm fine with that.

    While the rules in baseball were behind the times with PEDs the law was not. Players like Clements, Bonds and others who have the numbers to make it likely never will and I'm fine with that as well.
     
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    JMD 2012 Prius 4 Solar Roof

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    In the end Rose made his bed and sleeps in it although it is a victimless crime, as 2 baseball players during practice in deep right field one says I bet you can't hit home plate with the ball and the other says I'll take that and lets it rip. oops. :)
     
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    • Richard Nixon
    • Lance Armstrong
    • Barry Bonds
    • Mark McGwire
    • Members of the 'Black Sox'
    • Pete Rose
    Many institutions such as the MLB HOF set a code of conduct - those that fail to meet it are out.

    All of the above listed were governed by an ethic, if you want to dignify it as such

    So do we want to honor people that didn't care how they achieved something?
     
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    You're mixing politics and baseball. Redo it without Nixon. You're losing the logic.

    You assuming doping and gambling are similar. They are not. Your losing the logic.

    The Trosky quote that is a reach. Perhaps Yogi Bera
     
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    I think you are the one losing the logic with this half-hearted attempt at betting ;)

    It is amazing to me how people today just like to re-write history to suit their POV's.
     
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    We are all entitled to our opinions. Time will decide Pete's Rose's fate and not you or I
     
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    Including your half baked opinion. :)
     
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    :) .... out of here !
     
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    ^ I understand, you don't care how they did it.
     
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    Chuck you can't bring in an example of a Doping Trial at a Gambling Trial. That is a kangaroo court. That is like treating the Flu as if it were measles. If your going to bring your Big Boy Pants than make it count. Maybe the only thing you got is the Black Sox and no one proved that Rose fixed a World Series. So you got nothing in your post. It's garbage.

    Convince me Pete Rose is guilty and his punishment is Just and it impacted the game and I may agree. Bud Selig is a nut case. When he gets a stroke and someone new emerges Pete will be reinstated as the Great Player he is and his gambling will be a foot note in History.
     
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    The Dowd report said it had no proof and only the testimony of a Know booky and number runner who was a convinced felon.

    However I commend you for staying on topic.

    Pete Rose needs a good lawyer but it seems that his outlaw status is making him more money in the sports has been market signing his autograph
     
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    Huh? He denied it until he admitted it in a book. Unless he was lying to make money off the book, of course.

    Expunging stats or not recognizing them are the only real weapon sports have against greedy cheats. If you're going to cave, at the very least wait until they're dead. And then do it without ceremony.
     
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    That is a plan.

    My opinion new commissioner Pete is reinstated