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Jaguar I-Pace by Tesla Owner

Discussion in 'EV (Electric Vehicle) Discussion' started by bwilson4web, Jul 8, 2018.

  1. markabele

    markabele owner of PiP, then Leaf, then Model 3

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    Haha, yep, that's exactly why I ignored him. He tends to bring out the worst in people.
     
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    That's like saying my wife is responsible because I beat her. People bring out the worst in themselves.
     
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    So, a good beating does not necessarily beget responsibility in a spouse? Then what, pray tell, makes one into a responsible person? LOL.
     
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    el Crucero Senior Member

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    Keep digging your hole deeper!
     
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    markabele owner of PiP, then Leaf, then Model 3

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    It's rather hilarious now to see these random weird questions knowing they're in response to some nonsense that el crucero has spouted. You guys should really ignore him. I went from being angry whenever I came on these forums to smiling because I get to read these random funny posts responding to his propaganda.
     
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    Interesting! Let's see if Jaguar goes on to blame the media and shorts and big oil saboteurs. :) Kidding aside, this is good news for Tesla.
     
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    I am not anal about grammar, but you have to admit that el Crucero often pretty much butchers the use of the mother tongue. It's almost like he is inviting a (verbal) beating. Based on his own statement, this tactic (providing a good beating) might yield responsibility in his writing. :)
     
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    The proper word is anil, but of course you knew that.

    Wet me use sum gwammaw wif whitch yu mite bee mowe famiwiaw.
     
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    Don't know about that - but maybe that's a 909 thing.
    Urban Dictionary: 909
    point being - derogatory Outlook towards someone who doesn't drive as Ecco as "me", is no better than those who'd be derogatory about one's residence. It's way uncalled for.
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    I'm not sure it is good news. I think Elon would prefer to see more legacy automakers in the BEV production business. He wants to electrify the world. What the other makers are finding is that producing BEVs is not as easy as it appears. I wish Jaguar (Tata Motors) well in sorting out their problems and bringing their car to market.
     
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    Violent tendencies?
    So you are not ignoring me? Ignore me if you like, but just quit cold turkey.
     
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    maybe they should consider a tent.
     
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    So now among all the other things you "know" is what Elon Musk wants? Are you on intimate terms with him?
     
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    No, just repeating what he has said in the past.
     
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    it's easy to improve, & even double - when one is at rock bottom. But even if Tata/Jag is crawling out of the quality basement - if they follow in the 'no way" invest in charge infrastructure mentality that other manufacturers do ... what good does it do to have an EV that's constrained from traveling interstate hwys. To make an analogy - you might as well have a luxury cabin cruiser in the middle of the Sahara.
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  17. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Perhaps we should recycle the anti-Tesla FUD and replace with Tata Motors. For example, SEC filings:
    Form 6-K

    Cash flow, liquidity and capital resources

    Free cash flow was negative £1.7 billion after £1.1 billion of total product and other investment spending and £1.0 billion of seasonal working capital outflows in Q1 FY19. In the quarter, £967 million of investment spending was capitalised and £99 million was expensed through the income statement.

    Cash and financial deposits at 30 June 2018 stood at £2.8 billion (comprising £1.3 billion of cash and cash equivalents and £1.5 billion of other financial deposits) after the free cash flow, a £34 million net increase in the utilisation of a short-term debt facility and £225 million dividend paid to our parent TML Holdings Pte. Ltd. The cash and financial deposits include an amount of £386 million held in subsidiaries of Jaguar Land Rover outside of the United Kingdom. The cash in some of these jurisdictions is subject to impediments to remitting cash to the UK other than through annual dividends. As at 30 June 2018, the Company also had an undrawn revolving credit facility totalling £1.9 billion, maturing in July 2022, and £25 million equivalent of an unutilised short-term uncommitted receivable factoring facility.

    Tata/Jaguar is obviously burning through their credit cards. There is no way they are able to manufacture enough I-Pace to be any more than a 'green wash' car.

    Hey this can be fun! Cite a credible source and then make up a lie analysis . . . just like the Tesla FUDsters.

    Bob Wilson
     
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