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Just Another Fat Bloated Company Shaking Down the Little Guy (A Volt Story)

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by Octane, Mar 18, 2011.

  1. hampdenwireless

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    Actually for the most part this is not what happened in the GM bailout unlike the bank bailouts. In the bank bailouts the only one who lost was the US taxpayer, it seems like bondholders and stock holders where made whole AND THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN. They got a government guarantee in their risky investments that would have been otherwise worthless.

    In the GM bailout the bondholders and the stockholders were killed. You can argue about the taxpayer being made whole or not, but the rewards were not privatized like in the bank bailouts. The main beneficiaries of this were the GM workers.
     
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    I'm with you on being disappointed in the Volt and angry about how much taxpayer cash has been funneled into a company that still can't seem to make a decent car, but what does this have to do with Marx? Marxism is an economic system (that still hasn't actually been implemented anywhere) where the workers own the means of production in common. There is no privatized profit in a Marxist system. Not ever.
     
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    I pay for green choice that provides me with wind power from west texas. People are happy with the wind power here, and kenedy was hypocritical about his property values. Of course it can recharge cars. My community will soon be at 20% wind, add in nuc and biomass we will soon be over 50% and most of the rest natural gas combined cycle. My company pays more for wind too. So do you think I really give a ... about your opinion that we should burn oil for ever and individuals can't use anything but coal and oil energy. If you do I have a bridge to sell you.

    look at the mf link. it says november 12, 2010. Can you really not read or click? Sorry I did say last time. Get some high school kid to teach you to use your browser. At the same time tell me how the internet would have started without government financing.

    THis is factually incorrect. Argument - losing!
    You just can't read the links. argument - losing!
    No, but the government sources, newspaper articles, magazine articles, congressional record, and anyone with a clue and thinks about it knows, you guessed it. Duh. Wrong. When you get your funding from oil companies to slow down enviromental issues, you may have a conflict of interest in talking correctly about green cars.

    Look at the gd DOE page I quoted. It says substantially. It does not say entirely. For those that can read it means electric assist is good enough to qualify. Call the IRS tomorrow. They will tell you the same thing. I provided links to their phone number on those pages if you can not look it up. Arguing when you lost. DUH. Stupid

    btw: My corrections are fast because my gf is actually typing, then I read what she posted and correct. Its part of a drinking game ..... and you guessed it I'm winning.
     
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    LOL: You are assuming a understanding of basic economics, capitalism and Marxism. Then you are assuming understanding that wiping out shareholders in a bankruptcy is capitalism. The us like most economies is mixed, and their was some socialism keeping workers and management afloat in a larger company during the bankruptcy.