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Karl Rove is resigning.

Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by Godiva, Aug 13, 2007.

  1. Wildkow

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rae Vynn @ Aug 13 2007, 02:49 PM) [snapback]494980[/snapback]</div>
    Read it anyway you want but if that's what you think it says then you must be using what's up there for brains. :wacko: :lol:

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  2. rudiger

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(huskers @ Aug 13 2007, 05:51 PM) [snapback]494981[/snapback]</div>
    That ship sunk a long time ago. Almost immediately after the 2004 election, Bush became the lamest of ducks, what with the Terry Schiavo fiasco, John Bolton's UN nomination getting slammed, Iraq 'war' paralysis, etc. The Dems retaking Congress in 2006 just sealed the deal.

    It's telling that right after Bush spoke to the media about Rove's resignation, they both took off for a vacation in Crawford. It's a foregone conclusion that Bush is going to be 'on vacation' the remaining 14 months of his term. Well, even more on vacation than he's been for the last seven years, that is...
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(rudiger @ Aug 14 2007, 08:04 AM) [snapback]495301[/snapback]</div>
    Rove had to leave because he's responsible for so many failures of the bush administration. One blunder after another; unfailing ability to misread and misjudge the American people. Rove was never very smart, just devious. Guys like that always mistake deviousness for intelligence. He's nothing but the basest of weasels.
     
  4. Godiva

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    Don't forget Rumsfeld.

    Apparently he submitted his letter of resignation the day before the elections. Bush didn't see it until the day of the elections and it wasn't announced until the day after.

    There are Republicans pointing fingers saying that if it had been announced before the elections they might not have lost so many seats. Hard to say. But one wonders if he was going to resign....why wait until the last minute? Or why not just wait a few days more? The day before the election? That's kinda....stupid. Didn't anyone suspect? I should think Rummy could have been convinced to either push it up a little or delay a bit.

    Rumsfeld resignation letter FINALLY found but doesn't mention Iraq or the War.

    Even Faux News reports it.
     
  5. Wildkow

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Godiva @ Aug 15 2007, 07:24 PM) [snapback]496622[/snapback]</div>
    What I remember is that Rummy's resignation stole a lot of the thunder from the Democratic victory in the 2006 midterm elections. Wonder if that had anything to do with it? :lol:

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(JackDodge @ Aug 15 2007, 09:14 PM) [snapback]496579[/snapback]</div>
    His predecessors and tutors (they being Nixon's Donald Segretti and Reagan's Lee Atwater) were of the same ilk. Segretti himself famously referred to their tactics as 'rat-f ucking'. Rove just took rat-f ucking to a whole new level.

    However, Segretti went to prison in an attempt by Nixon to use him as the fall-guy for Watergate and Atwater supposedly recanted his sins on his deathbed shortly before dying of a brain tumor. Some such similiar fate eventually befalling fellow rat-f ucker Karl Rove would certainly be poetic justice.
     
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    :lol: I love that term, rudiger, thanks for the history on Rove's type. I wonder how many republicans are kicking themselves these days for falling for the line of bs that the bushies have been peddling all this time. That's your dream team, guys, a ratf**ker, a dimwit rich boy coke head and other various and sundry weasels and dumbs**ts. Don't forget all you bushies out there, all of those rights that you gave up for W's crusade, ostensibly against terrorism, will be fully exploited by every person who weasels their way in to the presidency. Including Obama, Hillary and Gore. Sucker! :lol:
     
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    Here's a couple of interesting passages from Wikipedia on Lee Atwater and his protégé, Karl Rove, along with George W. Bush:

    <blockquote>Atwater was a trusted advisor of U.S. Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush. He was also a political mentor and close friend of Karl Rove. Atwater invented many of the techniques of modern smashmouth politics, a style of politicking that attempts to destroy the careers and reputations of political opponents. His opponents characterized him as the "happy hatchet man" and "the Darth Vader of the Republican party".

    During the 1988 election campaign, future president George W. Bush, the then vice president's son, took an office across the hall from Atwater's office, where his job was to serve as "the eyes and ears for my dad," monitoring the activities of Atwater and other campaign staff. In her memoir, Barbara Bush said that George W. and Atwater became "great friends."

    During the 2000 presidential race, tactics that resembled Atwater's began to surface when Arizona Senator John McCain's campaign entered the crucial Southern state of South Carolina. Though no credible evidence has been uncovered, the "whisper campaign" that damaged McCain's chances in that state is often attributed to Karl Rove, a longtime friend, later named Senior Political Advisor to George W. Bush.

    Part of the "whisper campaign" included allegations that McCain had an illegitimate interracial daughter with a black woman. McCain in fact had an adopted daughter from Bangladesh.

    Four years later, the New York Times ran an article which connected groups promoting that message about McCain with Republican operatives and advertising firms with ties to the so called "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth" who impugned John Kerry's service record in Viet Nam. Rove's hand in both efforts was implied in the article.
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rae Vynn @ Aug 17 2007, 01:11 PM) [snapback]497925[/snapback]</div>
    Fabulous.

    I am so grateful, and feel a lot less guilty.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Godiva @ Aug 17 2007, 03:02 PM) [snapback]497964[/snapback]</div>
    The next up and coming ratf***er, possibly, is Henry Hager (Jenna Bush is engaged to him). Karl Rove's intern for chrissakes. He even has that weasel look about him.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rae Vynn @ Aug 17 2007, 01:11 PM) [snapback]497925[/snapback]</div>
    how challenging is it to criticize a mock-villian to the like-minded?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(JackDodge @ Aug 17 2007, 03:36 PM) [snapback]497981[/snapback]</div>
    It gets better. Henry worked on the 2004 Bush/Cheney re-election campaign. Besides being Karl Rove's intern, he's also supposedly managed to impregnate Jenna (or was it Not-Jenna), which is the real reason they're getting married.

    Yeah, Henry Hager will fit right in with the Bush family.