1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Level 1.5 Charger?

Discussion in 'Prime Plug-in Charging' started by cb-123456, Oct 2, 2019.

  1. Raytheeagle

    Raytheeagle Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2016
    11,251
    15,482
    0
    Location:
    Bay Area, California
    Vehicle:
    2019 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Plus
    In your case PIP vs. v though:p.

    Or will you be upgrading soon:whistle:?

    Tough loss for BC today to the Cardinal :cool:.

    I’m sure you were watching(y).
     
  2. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    108,912
    49,492
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    yeah, that was a close one, two defensive juggernauts :cool: you guys looked great though. is the program back on track?
     
    Raytheeagle likes this.
  3. Raytheeagle

    Raytheeagle Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2016
    11,251
    15,482
    0
    Location:
    Bay Area, California
    Vehicle:
    2019 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Plus
    Franklin is a great recruiter :).

    But they usually play poorly out of the gate and require a halftime adjustment :(.

    I get to tell my staff member “boiler down” Monday (y).
     
    bisco likes this.
  4. Old Bear

    Old Bear Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2017
    712
    1,049
    20
    Location:
    Boston, Massachusetts USA
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Plug-in Advanced
    That's an excellent question.

    Previous comments posted to Prius Chart indicate that it's frairly certain that the EVSE charging cord which comes with the Prime uses the same internal Clipper Creek circuit board whether shipped for use with 120-volt power in North America, with 230-volt power in the UK, Europe and New Zealand, or with 100-volt power in Japan. (Only the power cord wiring and plug is localized accordingly.)

    I tried to find a UK owners' manual on-line but was unable to do so. However, I did find this information about the earlier Prius Plug-In::

    A full charge using an external AC outlet takes approximately 2.5 to 3.0 hours from a standard North American 120 V 15 A household outlet,
    or 1.5 hours using a standard European 230 V household outlet.

    Possibly someone with a Prime in the UK or Europe could verify the charging time using the OEM charger. Given that typical 230-volt household circuits in the UK are 13A, it is probable that the Prime would limit its demand to something lower than that number when using the OEM Toyota EVSE charging cord.

    Hopefully someone with a Prius prime who lives in a 230/240 volt region will chime in.
     
  5. Rob43

    Rob43 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2014
    1,373
    1,047
    0
    Location:
    VA, BMW Race Car, BMW R1200R, BMW 330Ci, Ford F350
    Vehicle:
    2013 Prius v wagon
    Model:
    Prime Advanced

    I'll chime in, it typically takes 2:26 to 2:28* minutes to go from 0% to 100% charge at ~244 to ~247 volts at a smidgen under 12 amps.

    Using one of my Rob43 240v adapters & the Toyota OE 120v EVSE.


    Rob43

    Freshly parked car, warm-ish battery pack.
     
    #25 Rob43, Oct 6, 2019
    Last edited: Oct 6, 2019
    bisco likes this.
  6. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    108,912
    49,492
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    soooooooo......

    buying the aforementioned clipper creek 120v 16 amp evse won't speed things up?
     
  7. Rob43

    Rob43 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2014
    1,373
    1,047
    0
    Location:
    VA, BMW Race Car, BMW R1200R, BMW 330Ci, Ford F350
    Vehicle:
    2013 Prius v wagon
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    One person said it would, but I tried to locate that post and failed. It's here somewhere.

    The problem is this, who knows if his info is correct ? There was no other verification.

    I wouldn't spend over $400 dollars on a "Guess", hoping he was right...

    **********************************************

    bisco, Do you want to charge up at 240 volt speed, but you don't have a nearby 240v outlet ??


    Rob43
     
  8. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    108,912
    49,492
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    thanks rob,
    i have had an L2 since purchasing. $500. i was so naive back then, and not much smarter today.:oops:
     
  9. Rob43

    Rob43 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2014
    1,373
    1,047
    0
    Location:
    VA, BMW Race Car, BMW R1200R, BMW 330Ci, Ford F350
    Vehicle:
    2013 Prius v wagon
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    LOL, sell your $500 L2 EVSE for as much as possible, then buy one of my $49 adapters. My Rob43 adapter works FLAWLESSLY on your 2012 Plug-in Prius. (Use newly generated $$ to by Christmas gifts!)


    Rob
     
    bisco likes this.
  10. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    108,912
    49,492
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    i need to find another naive plug in owner :sneaky:
     
    Raytheeagle likes this.
  11. Raytheeagle

    Raytheeagle Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2016
    11,251
    15,482
    0
    Location:
    Bay Area, California
    Vehicle:
    2019 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Plus
    They’re around(y).
     
    bisco likes this.
  12. Old Bear

    Old Bear Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2017
    712
    1,049
    20
    Location:
    Boston, Massachusetts USA
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Plug-in Advanced
    Well, I installed a Leviton 40-amp Level-2 EVSE two years ago and have no regrets. My Prime may be limited to charging at 16-amps, but who knows what my next vehicle might use.

    crystal-ball.jpg

    You can find a lot of posts in Prius Chat which use the phrase "future-proofing."
     
    mountaineer likes this.
  13. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    108,912
    49,492
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    i think mine is 30 amp
     
  14. Tha_Ape

    Tha_Ape Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2019
    271
    161
    0
    Location:
    Washington, DC
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Plug-in Advanced
    Here's another data point

    I have a 16A/240V cable with a 120V adapter. It doesn't charge any faster or slower on 120V compared to the stock cable. Im not sure if it actually pulls 16A from the 120V, but based on projected charging times, it didn't seem like it
     
    Rob43 likes this.
  15. Rob43

    Rob43 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2014
    1,373
    1,047
    0
    Location:
    VA, BMW Race Car, BMW R1200R, BMW 330Ci, Ford F350
    Vehicle:
    2013 Prius v wagon
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    Good data point.

    The other thing that hasn't been discussed is the fact that "if" this could be done, the 120v 16 amp EVSE unit would need to be plugged into a 20 amp circuit. Not everyone has a readily available 120v 20 amp outlet near their Prime...


    Rob43
     
  16. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    108,912
    49,492
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    true, but the o/p does, and that was his question. i hope he is following, and didn't run out and buy the unit in post #2
     
  17. Rob43

    Rob43 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2014
    1,373
    1,047
    0
    Location:
    VA, BMW Race Car, BMW R1200R, BMW 330Ci, Ford F350
    Vehicle:
    2013 Prius v wagon
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    Maybe it's just me, but I couldn't imagine spending ~$200, ~$300, or ~$400+ dollars to knock a little bit of charging time off.

    If I'm spending the $$$, I want a solid result.


    Rob43
     
  18. Tha_Ape

    Tha_Ape Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2019
    271
    161
    0
    Location:
    Washington, DC
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Plug-in Advanced
    Rob - yes, you are right. I am NOT on a 20A 120V circuit... it's in a 15A circuit... Not a good data point. I have a 50A 240V and a 20A 240V, but my 120V is only 15A so it wasnt a good comparrison.
     
  19. Rob43

    Rob43 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2014
    1,373
    1,047
    0
    Location:
    VA, BMW Race Car, BMW R1200R, BMW 330Ci, Ford F350
    Vehicle:
    2013 Prius v wagon
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    Though you don't have a 20 amp service on your 120v outlet, I'm 100% sure it pulled the full 16 amps. Thus your data point is still good & valid.



    Rob43