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  1. spwolf

    spwolf Senior Member

    Sep 16, 2005
    Eastern Europe
    There is no idealism with Toyota doing FCV, just pragmatism. They are working on solid state batteries that can be used for any application. If they at some point think EV is a better solution, they will start making EVs.

    And they are likely doing it for their hybrids, which they produced 1.3m last year, not 3000 FCVs to be sold in next 2 years.


    yep, thats why they dont sell those unless there is govt incentive... what irks me the most is when european reviewers review these pointless hybrids, they dont tell us whats the real mpg when they are out of EV - and thats usually very hard to find for many cars if not sold in the USA. European industry really have EU in the hands, regulation is a joke. US fuel economy standards, emission standards and information given to the customer is far, far, far beyond EU's and EU citizens would be very surprised to learn that since we think our does not stink.
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  2. Trollbait

    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

    Feb 7, 2006
    eastern Pennsylvania
    Other Non-Hybrid
    My point was that having a battery R&D group doesn't mean they are working on batteries for plug ins. Different uses requires batteries with different properties.

    For hybrids and FCEVs you generally want one with a high power density so it give delivery a large amount of power quickly when the driver asks for it, and to absorb a lot when regen braking, while remaining a relatively small package. A plug in doesn't has high of a power density requirement, since the battery is going to be larger. They do need a high energy density in order to provide longer range. This is why battry specs for hybrids are in kW and plug ins kWh.