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Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by daniel, Feb 5, 2007.

  1. daniel

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(aaf709 @ Feb 6 2007, 01:47 PM) [snapback]386301[/snapback]</div>
    Leonardo squirmed like a Tasmanian devil every time he had to get a rabies shot. I'd carry him into the vet's exam room and put him on the table, and in one leap he'd be up on my shoulders holding on for dear life. I'd wrestle him down to the table and hold him for the shot, and he'd fight for all he was worth. And as soon as it was over he'd shoot back up to my shoulders for comfort.

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ZenCruiser @ Feb 6 2007, 02:49 PM) [snapback]386353[/snapback]</div>
    I don't believe that having a positive attitude helps, but I do believe the procedure has an extremely low rate of complications, and therefore a very high liklihood that I'll emerge just fine. Whether it cures my a-fib... well, on that point I've got a three out of four chance; and a 25% chance that nothing changes.

    But it is nice to know that so many people enjoy reading what I have to say. Thank you all. Chances are I'll be away a far shorter time than when I go on vacation.
     
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    I hope and pray the procedure went well (I hate needles too...I can't even watch someone give me one). Let us know how you're progressing. Don't stay away long.
     
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    Hope everything went well and your eloquent writings will soon reappear :)
     
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    I friend of mine had the same proceedure done a couple of years ago. He came through fine and has not had a problem with his heart since. I'll be waiting to hear that you've come through okay and you're doing well.
     
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    Are ye alive? Or do they have high speed Internet connections on the other side?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Godiva @ Feb 5 2007, 10:15 PM) [snapback]385893[/snapback]</div>
    Anticoagulants should not be injected into a mobile part of the body, such as the leg, because limb motion can increase bruising in the skin. Rubbing the site of an injection can be done in some but not all intramuscular inejctions depnding on the medication's viscosity. It is not needed for subcuatanous (fat layer) injections and it is contraindicated with anticoagulant injections because it can cause significant bruising. The subcutaneous fat layer in the abdomen is the preferred site for anticoagulants.

    Many first-time self-injectors will insert subcutaneous injections while holding the syringe like a dart between the thumb and index finger, inject, and then maneuver the thumb back to the top of the plunger. That technique is awkward and can cause unnecessary movement of the needle in the skin and make it more painful. Also, pushing with the thumb can inject the medication too quickly or with unneeded force, which can also cause pain and even some medication to leak out of the injection site. The appropriate way is to hold the syringe between the thumb and middle finger with the index finger perched above (not on) the plunger when inserting the needle. Once in place then the index finger simply comes down smoothly on the plunger. Thus, the syringe, needle and hand is not moved during the injection, just the index finger.

    Daniel, best wishes for a speedy recovery.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dr Ed @ Feb 9 2007, 12:47 AM) [snapback]387309[/snapback]</div>
    I didn't know it was an anticoagulant.

    My were allergy shots and I had my choice of stomach or thigh. Stomach gave me the creeps. Thigh wasn't much better.

    If I were Daniel, I'd be begging to go to the Dr twice a day and have them do it for me.
     
  8. daniel

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    I'm back home. They released me at around 6:00 or 7:00 last night. I'm still feeling pretty crummy.

    I don't remember anything, from the time they got me ready for the trans-esophegal ultrasound, until I woke up in recovery. I was surrounded by people telling me stuff, but I didn't believe whatever they were telling me. I felt as though my bladder were full to bursting, and wanted to get up and go pee. But in fact, they had a catheter in my bladder, so the feeling was due to irritation.

    The following day a urologist came in, had a look, and removed the catheter. He also told me that the technician who inserted it had placed it wrong. I had a lot of blood in my urine, which I think should not have been, because it was just a catheter. From the time I woke up until the urologist removed the catheter, about 24 hours later, I felt thoroughly miserable. And of course it hurt like the dickens to pee.

    Right now I feel a little like I'd been in a car accident, sore and bruised at all the insertion sites. They had about 7 catheters in me, not counting the bladder. One at the neck, and several in the crease at the front of the legs. I presume my grogginess and shakiness right now (I can hardly type) is due to the medicines they gave me. They put a Scopolamine patch on me to prevent nausea after the anesthesia, and they gave me some painkillers,which didn't do anything for the pain, but which helped me to sleep. Actually, the only pain I felt was my bladder. If the technician who inserted the cathter had done it right, I probably would have had no pain at all. There is now hardly any blood in my urine, and I finally got to take off the very uncomfortable bandages over the insertion sites.

    The good news is that they think the operation was a success. It may be a few months before we can say for certain. But my heart has been in sinus (normal) rhythm ever since. I'm not allowed any heavy lifting or exercise for a week or two.

    Now I have to resume taking Norpace, and for the next several days Lovenox again, and I have to start taking Warfarin.

    If my a-fib is really cured, it will be worth the ordeal.

    Thanks to everyone for your kind words.

    Dr. Ed: Thanks for your suggestions about self-injecting. I'll try it that way for this morning's injection.

    Godiva: I have to do the injections twice a day, at 12 hour intervals. The only convenient clinic is closed at those times, so I have to do it myself. It's creepy, but I can do it. In Spain there are people who are refered to simply as "practitioners," who make their living making house calls to give shots. You buy the medicine and you make an appointment with the practitioner, who comes to your home to adminster the shot. Typically they ride around on little motorscooters because traffic and parking can be problematic. I know about this because I got a bladder infection while I was there and had to have a course of antibiotic injections.
     
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    Welcome back, Daniel. I'm glad to hear the operation was a success. That's fantastic news. I'll keep my fingers crossed that your a-fib is cured.
     
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    Daniel,
    Glad you are back...catching up on Prius Chat should keep you entertained for several days and you don't have to lift (except to keep your feet out of it sometimes). :lol:
     
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    Daniel,
    I'm glad to see you're back. Keep in mind that the lovenox will extend bleeding time (that's what it's supposed to do,) so monitor the blood in the urine, and watch for significant bruising at the cath insertion sites. Sorry to hear that whoever put the urinary catheter in messed up. Scopalomine patch is usually good for 24 to 48 hours. Here's to a successful operation and a fast recovery.
     
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    Welcome back! So glad to hear it was successful! Picnching up the skin slightly before the injection is a good technique as Godiva mentioned. That ensures it will go into the fat layer and not muscle. Lovenxo is not designed for muscle absorption.
     
  13. daniel

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    Yesterday was not a good day. Friday started out with painful urination, and low volume and flow, but by evening the volume was better and the pain was nearly gone. But yesterday was back to very low flow and volume, plus pain. Also the bruises at one of the insertion sites had grown significantly. So I phoned the doctor's office to report the symptoms and ask if I should be concerned, and was told to go directly to the emergency room.

    I figured that either my bladder was full and I was not voiding, or I was experiencing phantom need-to-pee, because the feeling of needing to pee was intense. Especially immediately after peeing, the feeling was intense, as though I was not voiding hardly at all.

    At the emergency room they did an ultra-sound and determined that my bladder was nearly empty, concluding that I was actually voiding normally, and my bladder was either infected or irritated. Urine and blood work eliminated the former and concluded the latter, so they gave me an anti-spazmodic, and told me to phone the urologist on Monday. The anti-spazmodic greatly reduced the discomfort, and an hour after taking the first dose I was greatly improved. They also gave me a course of antibiotics, but I have no idea why, if the tests concluded I have no infection. Prophylaxis???

    So I am much improved. I am hoping (though hoping does no good) that I won't have to have follow-up surgery on my prostate for damage caused by the improperly-inserted catheter. It could just be irritation that clears up eventually. My pee is now bright orange from the anti-spazmodic, Phenazopyridine. They warned me of that when they gave me the prescription. They said the bruises are normal, and not a concern. They also tested my warfarin level and pronounced it acceptable.

    So far I have had no a-fib. That's the main thing!

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dr Ed @ Feb 9 2007, 09:42 AM) [snapback]387540[/snapback]</div>
    Yep. that's the instructions they gave me, both verbally and in writing with diagrams. The first shot left a big black-and-blue mark, probably because I was unsteady. All the rest have left only a tiny red spot. It stings a bit for a few minutes. No big deal. Today is my last day taking Lovenox. They gave me warfarin the day I left the hospital, and I have to take it daily now until further notice.
     
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    Becoming age challenged is hell...it seems after 40 it is one thing after another. At least it sounds like your medical people know what they are doing. ;)
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(huskers @ Feb 11 2007, 05:24 AM) [snapback]388395[/snapback]</div>
    All but the technician who inserted the urinary catheter. He knew I had had a transurethral transection, and yet he apparently inserted the catheter into the prostate instead of into the bladder.
     
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    On a completely trivial side track... Is it just me, or does the name Lovenox sound like it should be some Viagra-like drug.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Marlin @ Feb 11 2007, 07:51 PM) [snapback]388639[/snapback]</div>
    More like an STD. Love-pox.

    I think of it as anti-Valentine's "love knocks". (Or as my friends and I refer to the day: Black Wednesday.)
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(daniel @ Feb 11 2007, 03:46 PM) [snapback]388616[/snapback]</div>
    Dang Daniel... Can I just say OUCH for you? I'm glad to hear there's been no a-fib since your proceedure, but it sounds like you've been through quite an ordeal overall. Hang in there!
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Marlin @ Feb 11 2007, 08:51 PM) [snapback]388639[/snapback]</div>
    And why does 'Levitra' sound so much like 'levitate'? :)
     
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    Daniel,
    How are you feeling today?