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  1. hyo silver

    hyo silver Awaaaaay

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    Toyota?

    Aptera's not public, is it?
     
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  2. DaveinOlyWA

    DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!!

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    i want to get into a small but emerging wind or solar tech company, any suggestions?
     
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    Go with PBW and ride the trend instead of gambling on one or two individual stocks.
     
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    FWIW, Jim Cramer likes Ford preferred stock (symbol varies depending on the stock site and brokerage) better than the common stock.

    I actually hold some Ford preferred in my personal account and an IRA (symbols F-PS on Yahoo Finance, FPRS on Fidelity, F-S on TDAM) along w/some Ford common stock (symbol F) in an IRA.

    Good luck on finding much info on preferred stocks though. I don't know why the symbol is all different either. Good thing is that Ford preferred pays you good dividends while you wait (F-PS: Historical Prices for FORD MOTOR CAP TR II - Yahoo! Finance).

    Then again, some people think Cramer is a moron and that he sucks... but that's another discussion.

    Honestly, I'm not the best person to ask about auto stocks. I used to have some GM and as you could imagine, I got screwed pretty badly. I have a quite a bit of Toyota and am down ~30%.
     
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    cwerdna Senior Member

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    The solar stocks I hear about in the news are WAY too volatile. I wouldn't touch it unless you really thrive on volatility.

    These are NOT recommendations but look at LDK, FSLR, YGE, ESLR for instance and you'll see what I mean.
     
    #25 cwerdna, Aug 14, 2009
  6. daniel

    daniel Cat Lovers Against the Bomb

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    In a new industry there are lots of small start-up companies. A very small number will succeed. Most will fail. Everybody thinks "I should have bought Apple way back when..." but they don't remember that Apple was just one of a hundred companies, undistinguished from the others in any way, and most of them failed.

    Investing in start-up companies in a new industry is high risk. I'm not saying not to invest in them. Just don't invest money you cannot afford to lose.
     
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    a_gray_prius Rare Non-Old-Blowhard Priuschat Member

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    I know Mike- I'm a developer and I have done my share of interviews.

    Sounds like someone else reads Zero Hedge too :mod:
     
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  8. DaveinOlyWA

    DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!!

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    well small startup, risky, sure that is what i am looking at. i basically invested in GM. held the stock a few weeks and made $300. so i am pocketing the $300 and will take the original $250 i started with and gamble on something else.

    maybe i will just reinvest in GM while its still trading. too bad Zenn is taking so long to make me rich...wouldnt have to deal with all these complicated decisions.
     
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    daniel Cat Lovers Against the Bomb

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    Mighty inconsiderate of them!
     
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    DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!!

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    i think solar is too volatile as well. i also strongly think they are like the charge storage industry in that the technology is not mature. there is no "defined" paths right now. a lot of research going on but all in polar opposite directions which means that any investment in those types of companies is pretty much a roll of the dice.

    Zenn and eestor is definitely in that category. right now, i personally think that Better Place is the only good and "reliable" investment scheme. their business model does not rely on technology at all. only a way of distribution which all technology needs. they have basically copied the highly successful cellphone industry and appear to have the money to pull it off.

    i have been looking at other industries, primarily wind which i think is where we need to go. wind can be implemented nearly anywhere (91 % of the US has enough wind to ultilize a tower) the footprint is nearly infinitely scalable so can be built to fit nearly any need.

    although i knew this was coming, i am totally unprepared for this. right now the market is expanding big time and the time to get in is now (actually 2 months ago would have been better). but to be honest with ya, me in my overly safe money management habits born of living paycheck to paycheck for a bigger portion of my previous life that i care not to think about, i was hesitant after buying my Pri until the dust settled.

    but, i have survived, and what the hell??, gotta get the finances together for my highway EV with ultracap technology!!
     
    #30 DaveinOlyWA, Aug 15, 2009
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