Man Based Global Warming....

Oh, look, another conservatroll, freo-1. You folks lack any sense, intellectual honesty, or integrity. You are just another 'tard I need to put on ignore. There are some folks who actually make useful posts. Haven't seen any from you clowns.

 

No, he's a wannabee *scientist*. The world is filled with the opinions of people who believe that they are competent to comment on climatology, evolution, relativity, and lots of other areas outside their expertise. For some reason engineers seem to be especially prone to this.

 

Easily refuted.

Borenstein’s AP Sea Surface Temperature Article Is Misleading Watts Up With That?

 

Err..all those graphs in the Watts Up with That blog are going up.....

 

Why don't you devote your efforts to refuting what he says rather than picking nits.

The world is filled with ignoramuses who pretend to know enough to comment on the credentials of others while ignoring the facts around which their own falsifiable opinions are based.

 

So what? They still disprove the alarmist falsities from the AP article and its offshoots.

 

It is not the papers conclusion that has a problem. Is your flawed interpretation of it. The paper does not discuss global warming in any way but you use it anyway even though is the wrong timeframe.

2000 years is a more appropriate timeframe because it encompasses early pre-industrial civilization to modern civilation and elevated C02 levels in the atmosphere.

Your last point is just faulty logic. Just because many different mechanisms lead to the same end result doesn't mean that an identified mechanism is less likely to be a cause. Temperature in the past has varied for many reasons. The only current identified reason for temperature to increase, when in fact it should be decreasing, is an increased greenhouse effect.

 

Wrong. CO2 is most definitely NOT the 'only current identified reason for temperature to increase.'

Over the last 250 years, humans have added just one part of CO2 in 10,000 to the atmosphere. One volcanic cough can do this in a day.

Think about it.

http://www.quadrant.org.au/blogs/doomed-planet/2009/08/creating-catastrophe

 

Climate scientist and expert IPCC reviewer:

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FC: Does there currently exist a consensus among the scientific community surrounding the causes of the slight warming trend which has been documented over the past 50 years? Or are there competing explanations?
MK: A very intense debate is going on. Most of the skeptics like me feel that the warming that we saw during the 80’s and 90’s was most possibly due to the natural variability of the climate, just as there was a cooling of the earth’s climate from 1945 to about 1977. More importantly many skeptics and solar scientists feel that this warming and cooling is possibly driven by the variability of the total radiation received at the top of earth’s atmosphere. So the problem is much more complex than what the IPCC has projected to us...

...FC: It seems that more and more scientists seem to be publishing papers and making statements questioning the belief that man-man climate change is a serious problem. Can you explain this increase in the number of scientists who are expressing scepticism about human-caused global warming?

MK: I do not see man-made climate change as a serious problem at all. In fact, I do not subscribe to the view that the climate is changing due to human activities. As I have mentioned in my earlier explanation, the climate is always changing. Yes, the climate has changed in Canada, in parts of Europe but if you carefully analyze the tropical area, the equatorial region where a large population lives today I have studied the tropical and equatorial climate in my career for a long time and I think that the climate change there is minimal. The equator or the tropical region or the South Asian countries live in perpetually hot climate. They rarely have minimum temperatures going below 22 degrees. Their maximum temperature in the afternoon is always between 32 – 35 degrees, give or take a couple of degrees, and despite this perpetually hot climate most of these countries have made good economic progress. To give one example from my original country, India has increased their grain growing productivity almost 4 – 5 times in the last 50 years using just about the same amount of agricultural land. I think technological advances have helped India and countries like China, Thailand and Indonesia grow and improve grain production and provide adequate food and possibly shelter to the large number of humanity that lives there today. So I do not see climate change as a serious problem for humanity at all...

FCPP Publications :: Dr. Madhav Khandekar, Retired Environment Canada Scientist

 

Why is there stupidity? Why are there trolls (Shawn Clarks)? Why is there Obama, Deepak Chopra, the MSM, Scientology, Keith Olbermann, Charles the Queeg, Lawrence Rosie O'Donnell, Bill Maher, the designated hitter rule?

Easy: because there is intelligence. Because there is intelligence, there is stupidity in all its varieties, including the intelligent stupidity of Marxism, socialism, deconstruction, existentialism, atheism, metaphysical Darwinism, radical feminism, climate changerism, you name it. Truth is one. Stupidity is legion. ~ Gagdad Bob

 

opcorn:

 

Pachauri’s call for 350 ppm is breakthrough moment for climate movement | Grist

 

Climate change causing food shortages in Nepal

 

Laughable. This is like declaring that next year should be 2008.

We're already at around 385 ppm and the emerging industrial powers aren't going to stop using the cheapest available energy and neither are we. (We'll just tax the 5h!t out of it, if the EPA gets its way or we are dumb enough to pass the 'cap and trade' bill.)

In addition, citing this man on climate science is likely to arouse the ire of Mr. Schumacher, in that he is another 'wannabe scientist' with degrees in industrial engineering and economics! Schumacher, Icarus and Alric will come down on you like a ton of bricks for suggesting that this Pachauri's opinion has any credence.

 

Which, of course, has ZERO to do with CO2 as the source and everything to do with Greenpeace as the source.

Thursday, August 20 2009 14:27
Gerd Leipold, Executive Director of Greenpeace, was forced to admit that his organization put out false and misleading information about the effects of climate change. When confronted on the BBC’s ‘Hardtalk’ program, Leipold said it “may have been a mistake” but justified the claims saying “we’re not ashamed of emotionalizing issues.”


Fibber falls for the emotional B.S. without fail, once more, yet again, recurrently, etc., etc.,....

 

Hey, Fibber, you're expending too much energy. Let me help you out:

United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon recently said, “We have just four months. Four months to secure the future of our planet.”
Dr. James Hansen, head of NASA’s Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS) warned in January that President Obama had ‘four years to save the world.’
Britain’s Prince Charles saying that nations had “less than 100 months to act”

At least Prince Charlie thinks we've got a little over eight years to save ourselves. The eternal optimist, he!

After these clowns are forced to revise their dire predictions (and no loonies will admit they had to do it, and no MSM coverage will be afforded, and the next man-made cause of cataclysm - plastic or whatever - has become the enviro-loonie's cause celebre) Fibber will still be on board.

Meanwhile, the politicians and environmental whackos will laugh all the way to the bank as we common folk beg them to let us build a wind farm at the expense of perhaps causing the extinction of the desert rat-weasel or some such unfortunate creature. God help us all.

 

Greenland Conference Concludes Arctic Climate is Changing Drastically and Rapidly
1 September 2009

The Arctic climate is changing drastically at a rapid pace and the effects will be felt on a global scale. That was the overall conclusion from a scientific conference on climate changes in the Arctic which was held in Nuuk, Greenland last week. The conference was organized by the National Space Institute at Technical University of Denmark, the Danish Meteorological Institute and the Greenland Climate Center.

http://www.space.dtu.dk/English/News/News.aspx

 

Arctic sea ice extent greater today than in 2007 and 2008 - the actual measurements:

IJIS Web Site

 

1. The graph has only the smallest beggining of the summer low data.

2. 07, 08 and 09 are by far the years of lowest extent in that record.

 

Well huzzah, the problem's solved then! Whew!