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Discussion in 'Prime Main Forum (2017-2022)' started by Marine Ray, Apr 1, 2022.

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  1. Gokhan

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    If that were the case, the phaseout would start in Q4 2022, not Q3 2022.
     
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    You're right.
     
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    On the topic of how much people will have to spend... bZ4X prices in Europe are being released now. For the Netherlands, the high-end model (Premium AWD) is €48,024.79 which at current exchange-rate is $52,414.50. For the base model (Active), it is €38,933.88 which is $42,292.63.
     
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    If that price hold for the US model, then the base model Solterra would be right around $45K... that may get too expensive for me.:cry:
     
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    Believe you 100%. However, in case asked, what's your source?
    Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.
     
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    From this capture shared today... FB_IMG_1649336479498.jpg
     
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    Prices for imports in Europe are a lot higher than in the US because of very high customs there.
     
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    Totally missed the previous ap post, about a dozen others on the subject but not very detailed
     
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    Nothing currently in the news is accurate or useful. I think at the moment the most accurate number is the one I calculated, but let's hope it is wrong. Toyota is required by IRS to give an official number by the end of April if it has reached 200,000 in March.
     
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    European prices include the VAT, which is around 19% in most countries.
     
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    Plus SCT (special consumption tax), plus customs, which are typically much higher than VAT.
     
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    Good, then there is still hope that a base model Toyota bz4X starts around $36K? Which makes the base model Solterra below $40K... maybe. Or is it wishful thinking? That number is all over that places. From a low of $36 to a high of $42 starting price for bz4x.
    2023 Toyota bZ4X: What We Know So Far | Kelley Blue Book
     
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    Those prices I pointed out did not. The next column (BTW) was the very high tax. Notice them added together further over.
     
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    That's before they add between $5 & $10K to the price, turning on stripped vs fully loaded model, at the stealership level .... what with chip shortages & higher transportation/delivery costs. Maybe after deliveries trickle out and the model is a year old - & some desperate used seller may have to get out from under big monthly payments - & it'll get snapped up for a more reasonable price.
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    EU car tariff was 10%.
    The rest of the world doesn't have the US dealership models. They have factory owned stores as an option to go to.
     
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    Not really. Where is that?
     
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    It is strange that Toyota still hasn't made an official announcement. They only have until April 30th to do so. I wonder if there will be three additional months.

    Meanwhile, no new Prius Primes are available in Southern California.
     
    #59 Gokhan, Apr 25, 2022
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    Toyota seems to be loath to make Primes.
     
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