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Discussion in 'Prime Main Forum (2017-2022)' started by mr88cet, Mar 21, 2017.

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  1. mr88cet

    mr88cet Senior Member

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    The dealer got confirmation that my P.Prime is scheduled to be built in April, for May-June delivery.

    Grumble... I guess that's what I get for living in environmentalism heathen territory (Texas).

    Then again, it'll probably take about that long before my wife gets her license, so maybe it's not all bad.


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    If I get too antsy, I suppose I could fly out to 'Cisco, buy one there and take a big road trip back! Probably not too good for break-in though... :)


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    I have waited almost 5 months for my #2 Prime......be patient

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    Ordered in early-mid-January, so I guess 5-6 months might be pretty typical at this point in the production run.

    #2, eh?


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    Me and my wife .....have 2 Primes.....my 1st choice was 2017 I3 Rex and after a week having test car i give up on BMW I3 REX and bought Prius Prime Advenced

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    I'm on the list -- the very long list -- for a Tesla Model 3, but I want to get a car that for-sure has no range issues. I'm guessing there'll be an even longer lag than the P.Prime from CA release before Model 3s to make it to Texas.

    I might forego my reservation and buy a Model 3 on the normal market, perhaps in 2019; hopefully they'll have the kinks worked out by then!

    Pretty strong chance by then our Gen-2 Prius (currently 127Kmiles) will be starting to crumble.


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    I read an article last week that didn't come right out and say it but if you did the math Model 3 orders placed right now won't see them till early 2019.
     
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    127,000 miles? That's the break-in period.
     
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    I've heard various accountings of that. Last I heard, the factory tooling is nearly in place now, and the preproduction Model 3s for employees to iron out the kinks with are targeted for July-August time frame. Full, but initially very-slow, production then to start in the October-ish time frame. Initial shipments to CA, gradually fanning out from there.


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    So what the cost per KW will be on Tesla chargers for Tesla 3

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    When did you order it? I live in DFW and ordered mine in early February. No date has been set yet. Thanks.
     
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    Early-mid-January. I'm in Austin, BTW.


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    I don't think any numbers have been published for that yet.


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    I'm interested in Tesla 3.....but before I test drive one I'm not so HOT....Chevy Bolt i tested and like it....downside is almost not existing fast charge network...So Tesla 3 still is in my book long trip car....

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    Most of what I've seen of the Bolt looks good to me. Charging networks are improving, but yes, nothing like Tesla's Supercharger network, unfortunately. Also, not as good ADAS as Tesla Autopilot.

    Haven't had a chance to see a Bolt in person or test drive it. A local dealer says they're not expected to make it to Austin until August.

    Not as flashy, but very practical.

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    In Texas' environmental defense though, we do have the largest cumulative wind farm of all of the states. Of course that's partly just because it's a big state, but also because of having both coastal winds and the open desert winds in the west. Anyway, not entirely "big oil"...


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    I presume you mean on Tesla's Supercharger network? Home charger costs would presumably be same as for Model S or Model X, i.e., same chargers, I presume.

    Actually, I'd think it would be charged by KWh not per KW... Or perhaps as a fixed annual fee.

    Sorry, maybe I'm misunderstanding your question...


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    First 400 kWh a year free, then it varies by state. Details are available on the Tesla website, but for most of the country in the ~ 13 cents per kWh range (read: more in CA.) People who charge at home for most of their driving are ok; those with PV are golden; and those who have to rely on SC for all charging get a reasonable deal, but not so good that they choose Tesla to save on car fueling costs.
     
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    Most of my charges are at home...
    But i want to have EV to go on long trips and cost per mile 0.034 is good plus 400 free a year....what is really advantage of Tesla is how fast they charge to 80% and that will go just fine with my stops on the trip
    9.1 dollars for 70 KW is not so bad

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    kW is power
    You are paying for an amount of energy

    kWh

    Regarding SC cost, Tesla is being somewhere between very fair and downright generous. The free 400 kWh is worth about 1600 miles per year in a Model 3; and each trip might as well start with a full charge from home. So depending on trip length and number of trips per year, most owners will likely never pay a penny. And when they do the charges are only a couple pennies per kWh more than local home rates anyway.

    The SC network was being harmed by free-loaders, and the new rate scheme was to remove the incentive for them and others to join in. The network remains a fantastic part of Tesla ownership, and no other long distance charging network is worth talking about.
     
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    I believe those are Model S/X numbers, though, right? I gather that Model 3 numbers are expected to be different.


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    These rates are for all Tesla models being sold since ~ February.
    No law prevents Tesla from changing terms in the future, but the people in the 'know' consider it highly unlikely that Tesla would charge different rates for different models. It goes against a lot for what they stand for, it is against their business model, and in my opinion could simply not happen while Musk or JB Straubel are at Tesla.

    As I wrote above, the new rate scheme is only there to curb increasing abuse by free-loaders and to preserve the SC network for its original and ongoing reason to exist: to turn the Tesla EV into a long-distance car but NOT to replace home charging. This context does not have rationalize different rate schedules by model.
     
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