I know, I know - there is plenty of threads on this topic here, I did even not know which forum to choose for such questions, but... After reading some of them, I'm not sure what to think... My questions: - are the popular Mini-VCI devices clones/nock offs of someone's earlier work? Is the integrated software (firmware) stolen from some place or hacked/cracked? - most of the Mini-VCI devices comes with a CD or DVD with the driver (is that genuine or stolen?) AND the TechStream software, this is definitely cracked - right? - are there any VCI devices (or VIM - Vehicle Interface Modules, as Toyota names them), which do not brake any intellectual property laws out there? At best at a reasonable prise Why this questions? I do not like to brake any laws. The intellectual property laws included of course. Toyota makes it possible do download, install and use of the genuine TechStream software - you have to pay a small fee - something about € 5.00 for one day in Europe. I think one day is enough for a DIYer to do, what is needed, and the price is very good for that. So I bring this questions to definitively clarify, if - buying a China Mini-VCI does fill money to some thieves pockets in any way? - is it possible to an average DIYer to take advantage of the genuine Toyotas TechStream using some Hardware, that _does_not_ brake_any_intelectual_property_laws_ and does not cost a small fortune? I'm curious what you think! Mat PS. I am deliberately using here a plain language - "thieve", "stolen software" and this like. If someone is working hard to develop a piece of hardware, writing software for it, bringing it to the market only to wake up at some day and see cheap copies of his hard work flooding the market - can that be OK?