Model 3 current and projected production

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  1. bisco

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    can you buy a mirai, or are they lease only?
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Bob actually owns a BEV (with a range extender) so I hardly consider his numbers to be FUD....and I find that his guesstimations about future performance supports my thinking that Tesla's growth is assured through 2019, but may fall short of the numbers that you cited.
     
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    Projections are "promises" according to you and others on this forum. So is the statement by Toyota that they have sold over 3000 Mirai, as posted in January 2018 by Motor Trend, a "misleading guess?" And if you read your own link, Toyota posted end of year sales (2017) for the Mirai at 2900 in the US. That is not a projection, a guess, or a promise. That is apparently a legal SEC filing.
     
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    Bob owns a hybrid. Once you put an ICE in an electric vehicle, it becomes a hybrid. They are known as "PHEV", Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicle. A BEV is a vehicle that is powered only by batteries.
     
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    My understanding is that in California you can purchase a Mirai outright, but most people are leasing them because the technology has not matured yet and they don't want a long term commitment. The Mirai was introduced in 2014. I presume all of those leases were for 36 months, it will be interesting to see if those expiring leases will be turned into purchases or new leases on the Mirai............................or purchases for the Tesla model 3. ;) :whistle:
     
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    First and only FCEV that you can actually buy.
     
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    They could always give the scrap metal to Tesla, they will be able to find a use for it :)
     
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    Ask Toyota!
     
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    No, I am asking you since you posted the link. I presume you posted the link because you thought it was accurate. Do you think the link is accurate or misleading?
     
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    Does it really matter what I think? I have more faith in what Toyota posts then what Tesla posts.
     
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    I have no idea what you are talking about. o_O
     
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    Well you should! It's pretty crazy and I am surprised at how hard it will be for first responders to isolate the power. Rear quarter panel C pilar needs to be cut into to get to the power supply.
     
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    That's the secondary location if you can't get to the one under the hood near the washer fluid reservoir.
     
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    Yes but that one is not that easy either.
     
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    The rule Toyota wanted exemption from a rule that called for the automatic isolation of the high voltage source from where it might be a threat to people at the moment of a crash. It is the plug in equivalent of the fuel pump shut off switch on cars with a ICE.

    The first responder shut off switches are for completely shutting down the high voltage network in the event they need to do an extraction.

    Toyota's reason for the exemption is that such a system would completely disable the Mirai in the event of a minor bump, such as might happen during parking. I have not heard of such being an issue for others' FCEVs that have been available to the public.
     
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    Oh that. @orenji you are misrepresenting the data. Both BEV cars and ICE cars can catch fire under some circumstances. Fire units are aware of the protocol for different kinds of cars. My plug-in Prius (or any hybrid) has the same cautionary procedures as a Tesla. Educate yourself by reading this article

    You are one of the primary FUDsters on this forum. [​IMG]
     
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    So the front end gets hit, so how do you get the front hood to open?
     
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    Quite possibly by ripping off the what remains of the hood, or, simply opening it.
    If such is not possible, they cut through the C pillar.

    Have you read what can be necessary with the Prius? Especially if it is one with solar installed? It isn’t any easier. In some ways, more difficult.
     
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