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Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by dragonfly, Mar 1, 2007.

  1. jimmyrose

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(F8L @ Mar 1 2007, 11:56 PM) [snapback]398892[/snapback]</div>
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  2. desynch

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(tleonhar @ Mar 2 2007, 12:38 AM) [snapback]398882[/snapback]</div>
    Nobody ever said all Muslims are cold blooded murders. Your comment about the Christians is a very typical liberal response.

    We are talking about Islamofacists, not Nazis, the Crusades, or the terrible way our ancestors treated the Natives. We're talking about the people whom we are at war with - ISLAMOFACISTS. They are currently, everyday, killing in the name of Mohammad or Allah or whatever.. Remember 9/11? That happened here.. but terrible things like that (not quite to that degree though) happen everyday in countries with lots of ISLAMOFACISTS.

    So to clarify, I'm saying we're at war with Muslim Fundamentalists, that hate us, and everyone else - because of our way of life. Our freedom. Because we don't treat our women like animals. Because we educate our women. Because we tolerate homosexuality. Because we tolerate other religions. Because we are free to speak. They hate us because we are who we are. They hate us because we allow our women to walk without being covered. They hate us because we don't follow their FUNDAMENTALIST MUSLIM CREED.

    Islamofacists are Muslim. BUT - THAT DOESN'T MEAN ALL MUSLIMS ARE ISLAMOFACISTS!!!!!!!
     
  3. dragonfly

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(desynch @ Mar 3 2007, 10:04 PM) [snapback]399798[/snapback]</div>
    Great (and not that I agree with your statements above because I don't, but...) - that comes back to my question from earlier. How can you tell which ones are from which ones aren't?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Angel Flight Pilot @ Mar 1 2007, 08:41 PM) [snapback]398779[/snapback]</div>
    I am just curious if you can compare the current administration to the German Socialists a few more times. It really doesn't count unless you do it at least five times. Otherwise, it just sounds like you are comparing them to the Russian Communist Party, or some other leftist government.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(desynch @ Mar 3 2007, 11:04 PM) [snapback]399798[/snapback]</div>
    Actually no. The don't hate us for our freedom. They hate us because we meddle. Our governments prop up dictators (see Iraq, Iran, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, etc.) , our military builds bases in their "holy land" (see Saudi Arabia) , and our corporations try to manipulate their cultures. As long as we continue to meddle, we will be attacked. They could care less what we do in our part of the world ... but the sure will fight to save their part.

    Okay ... going back to enjoy my new Prius and will attempt to avoid conversations like this.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ATOM_SF @ Jun 19 2007, 12:20 AM) [snapback]464487[/snapback]</div>
    They do hate a free press
    They do hate a fair judiciary
    They do hate a honest and fair and peaceful transfer of power from one president to the next

    We meddle? 9/11, the london bombings, the madrid bombings, the assination of RFK, the murder of the israeli athletes in munich, .....

    We build bases in their holy land???? how do we do that? are we invited their or do we force our way into their countries??? Heck, we cant get the German's to let us leave after over half a century, the same for Qatar - they beg us to come and stay and protect them.

    How can our corporations manipulate their cultures? Again, it must be some mystical force. The dont listen to music or watch movies. their women do not read or write or go to school or vote or even show skin. They do not have a free press - no advertising - no non-"kosher" food... no music or movies.... no pc's or internet access....

    They have cared about what we do, how we live, how we modernize for about a millenia now, if you cannot see that, its your fault, not ours. Try going and living there for a few years - perhaps a semester abroad or two.

    They are not fighting to save their part of their world, they fight to enslave members of their own world, they refuse to let women out of slavery - of honor killings, of death by stoning - kind of midevil - dont you think so? Why do they need nuclear weapons????? if we have not attacked them , or nuked them, over the past 60 years why would we now. why would we make radioactive the oil supply that feeds the world - the same oil supply we fight wars for??

    enjoy your prius - "avoid conversations like this" - is a good idea for you and us.
     
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    I believe its just a political move.... :rolleyes:

    Wow well said ,that about sums it up!!! B)
     
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    "Islamofacists are Muslim. BUT - THAT DOESN'T MEAN ALL MUSLIMS ARE ISLAMOFACISTS!!!!!!!"


    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dragonfly @ Mar 4 2007, 02:11 AM) [snapback]399800[/snapback]</div>
    Above is your response to a prior post. You ask "how can you tell which ones are from which ones aren't [peaceful Muslims from islamofascists]".

    Answers how you tell a islamofascist from a peaceful muslim - you can choose any or all of them:
    1. they are yelling, "allah akbar" - (trust me on this one, duck, hit the ground quickly, and kiss your nice person - if after 10 seconds your lips are still in contact with your butt, your are damn lucky)
    2. they are the guys in flight school learning how to take off and not land.
    3. there are wearing oversized shirts with wires hanging down connected to a detonator in one of their hands.
    4. they are carrying an ak-47 and have multiple clips hanging from their belt in the mall
    5. in their wallets they have an aclu membership card
    6. they are wearing orange jump suits.
    7. the pants they are wearing has a tag in it, "property of abu-graib prison".
    8. they set off the puffer machine at the airport security center.
    9. they have a picture of OBL in their wallets.