New 2019 Niro Plug In

Discussion in 'Hyundai/Kia/Genesis Hybrids and EVs' started by John321, May 7, 2019.

  1. markabele

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    KIA and Hyundai have started an interesting new program: They have put up a new website to allow KIA -Hyundai owners to download free up to date Navigation,GPS,Modem updates for their vehicles. This is free of charge and you can do it from home and then update your vehicle with the new download . Very nice bonus for their customers

    Hyundai has started a complimentary maintenance program- anyone who buys a new Hyundai gets 3 years free maintenance:
    • Engine oil and oil filter changes
    • Tire rotations
    • Multi-point inspection
    • Hyundai Genuine Oil filters & Hyundai Recommended Oil

    I hope KIA will follow suit and up their game to match their parent company
     
    #102 John321, Aug 10, 2020
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    Thanks for this! I'm currently in the hunt for a new car and considering PHEVs and BEVs and the Niro and Kona EVs are at the top of my list.
     
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    I am going to keep this post updated for individuals who are interested

    This is the 1.5 year update.
    Car has 22,650 miles on it.
    No problems or issues.

    The only money spent on it has been the required 7,500 mile oil changes. A 5 qt jug of WalMart SuperTech Synthetic 0W-20 and a KIA oil filter = $14.50 +$5.95 or $20.45 per oil change = 3 x $20.45= $61.45. $61.45 has been my total maintenance cost for 1.5 years and 22,650 miles.
    I rotate the tires and all the other checks myself. Tires are still showing no wear and brakes also no wear.

    This time of year is the sweet spot for Plug in Hybrids in my neck of the woods. Daily average temps in the mid 70's mean that you can squeeze 28 to 35 miles per charge out of EV mode.

    Last week I bought my first tank of gas since March - I was going to see if I could make it to the end of 2020 without buying gas but the kids here have started back to school in Hybrid mode where they go two days a week in person and when I transport the kids I always like to keep a full tank of gas, I bit the bullet and filled up even though I had a 1/2 tank. In the Niro it holds 11.9 gallons and at 50 mpg that's about a 600 mile range not including EV miles.

    This is still the vehicle of choice for family members whenever they need to go somewhere.

    We had to trade our trusty 2004 Sienna in at over 150,000 miles and based on our KIA experience we opted for a new 2020 Hyundai Santa Fe SEL. We bought a bigger vehicle for vacations and when the whole family travels together. I thought the family would want to drive it all the time but it mostly sits around as the backup vehicle in case someone has taken the NIRO out.

    We keep the NIRO plugged in at all times no exceptions. It is unplugged to drive and immediately plugged back in to our Level 2 charger when it returns home. This has been its routine since it was purchased and will be its routine for the next 10 years. We keep our vehicles at least 10 years. Traded in a new 2008 Prius that was 12 years old with 150,000 miles on it for the NIRO. Traded in a 2004 Sienna that was 17 years old with 150,000 miles for the Hyundai.
     
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    to each their own. We try to follow the 85% rule. After reading up - how capacity longevity can turn on recharging less frequently at the top-end ..... continually having a maxed out charge - then sitting for days sometimes? ..... and seldom if ever needing that top 15% anyway? it just seems the prudent thing to do if we want to keep the vehicles for a long long time.. Often our plug-in WILL sit for days, which is the other element in the mix that can eventually reduce traction pack longevity - albeit just a small amount. Sure, some will think that's too anal and I respect that.
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    A look at EV's in the winter and honest discussion of range loss: KIA NIro EV featured

     
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    Two year update. Car has 29,781 miles on it and hasn't had any issues.

    The only money spent on it has been the required 7,500 mile oil changes. A 5 qt jug of WalMart SuperTech Synthetic 0W-20 and a KIA oil filter = $14.50 +$5.95 or $20.45 per oil change = 4 x $20.45= $81.80. This Maintenance interval it called for Engine Air Filter and Cabin Air Filter replacement = $32.78 + $19.03. This brings the total for 2 years ownership cost to $133.61.

    I rotate the tires and all the other checks myself. Tires are still showing little wear and brakes almost no wear.

    Car still get around 50 mpg and 30 miles per charge.

    Car is always plugged in if not being used- no exceptions.

    I had promised to give updates, have done this for two years, this is probably the last update I will give.

    Vehicle has been everything I had hoped for.
     
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    Thanks for the update. Always appreciate an owner’s view and experience on other vehicles that aren’t Prii. It’s what makes this forum great - (allowing others to share their thoughts even if it’s not a Prius)
     
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