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Featured New Graphene-Based SuperBattery To Charge In 15 Seconds

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by mjoo, Sep 8, 2020.

  1. alanclarkeau

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    True - but we have to get over these things. Apparently the terminology has been incorrectly used/confused for well over a century now. We'll never change it now.

    I'm sure if I sent my daughter to "go buy a pack of cells from ALDI" - she'd look at me strangely.
     
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  2. Fred_H

    Fred_H Misoversimplifier

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    Yes, I said we must live with it. So I don't understand the "but".

    Or do you think I said that people should always use the technically correct terminology? But I only said they should be aware of it.
     
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    Much like the abuse of the term computer hacking when they mean cracking.
    Hackers are skilled programmers. Crackers break into systems.
     
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    Volta never referred to his creation as a battery, perhaps a “pile“
    but battery is a North America homongalism

    Also calling a double A simply a “cell” without some other descriptor, is too common of a word to have any descriptive meaning to anyone
    Making any argument that it should be solely used by itself moot .

    At a minimum you would need to say battery cell or AA cell at which point common English will always drop one of the words to simplify speech in this case cell is dropped since it has no meaning by itself.
     
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    Another definition for cracker.
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  6. mjoo

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    The person judged the article with the wrong measuring stick and accused me of posting "click bait". I was showing them which tool to use (dictionary). If said person private messaged me I would have handled it differently.

    From what judgement ye judge ye shall be judged.
     
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    By themselves cell could refer to prison and AA could refer to Alcoholics Anonymous.

    Definitely no confusion only using one word.
     
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    Not sure if I would want a 12 pack of AAs
     
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    Yeah I know the article is light on detail. But Skeleton Technologies is a quality company producing leading ultracaps. Maybe they came up with a variant of this:
    High-density hybrid powercapacitors: A new frontier in the energy race
    or this (published in 2012): Graphene supercapacitors are 20 times as powerful, can be made with a DVD burner

    I did a search for Skeleton Tech. patents and didn't find any recent ones. So maybe they're withholding details before filing patent(s).
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    I wasn't discussing the history of battery the thing, but battery the word. Al didn't refer to his electrochemical contraption as a battery, but a voltiac pile, while Ben used the term for a connected group of capacitors.

    The first electrochemical battery cell made by man happened in ancient Egypt, where it was liking used for metal plating.
    I heard about capacitors and batteries being built together before that; even provided a link to a company selling them. There mention articles by whoever is what is creating confusion about what this announcement is actually about

    The problem with using the hybrid term is that it is being used with those capacitor and battery combinations. These are a traditional battery with an ultracapacitor built in to act as a buffer to improve performance and life. Nothing new about them, and you can get them now for some applications.

    These are a combination of capacitor and battery technologies within the cell. Electrochemical capacitor is the best descriptor I've come across for them.