New owner - Master Warning on, VSC on, yellow brake icon - HELP!

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  1. Kev_Prius2017

    Kev_Prius2017 New Member

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    Hello everyone!

    This is my first post and first plea for help so I'm really hoping you knowledgeable owners can help me.

    My girlfriend just purchased a 2005 Toyota Prius T3 Vvt-i Auto which has done 28k miles and is in super condition. All services done so far at Toyota main dealers.

    She's been looking to purchase one for months and we finally found this one and bought it for £4k which seemed like a bargain to us especially given the reliability of the cars. Did all the relevant checks including MOT history and everything is perfect.

    Picked up the car and drove it 60 miles home - worked perfectly and was a real pleasure to drive. I usually go for smaller and pokier cars but really enjoyed the ride and watching the hybrid stuff working :D

    Later that evening I managed to be a total doofus and drive about 500m with the parking brake on - nothing noticeable happened (apart from some squeaking...) and I drove another mile with the brake off and the car was perfect.

    30 mins later I got back in the car and the 3 lights were on - I drove it the mile home with no difference in feel or drive.

    Next day, girlfriend drove it and NO lights were on.

    Next day, got back in the car and these 3 lights were on again - she took it to the local main dealer who did a diagnostic and immediately told her that it needs a new part which costs £2k! We did a bit of research (on this forum and others) and realised that they were most likely talking about the invertor/converter and of course my girlfriend was very unhappy about this.

    Checked with the previous owner who has not seen these issues before and we also checked on the age of the 12V battery. It was old enough to insist on a check - the main dealer tried it and told us it was really low on charge so we got a new 12V put in. Same issues.

    I drove the car home from the dealer and have tried various things:
    1) Disconnected the 12V battery for 20 mins and connected again - no difference
    2) Used the secret maintenance mode (on the main screen) and cleared all codes - no difference
    3) Used a ODB2 box (cheap off ebay) and read the codes and cleared them all - no difference
    4) Tried doing a master reboot but the instructions I've found only appear to be valid for USA models?

    The car appears to work perfectly - I've attached a picture showing a 12 mile journey and you can clearly see the hybrid battery going from 60% charge and purple at the start of the journey to 90% and green at the end.

    I'm really stuck for what to do next - try it on EV mode only at 100% charge to test the hybrid? How long should it go?

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated as I feel so sorry for my girlfriend - it took a long time to save up this money and she is so disappointed.

    I've attached the dealers report, the diagnostics, the before and after pics etc...

    Thanks in advance

    Kev
     

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    Kev_Prius2017 New Member

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    Quick update - someone on another forum said this:
    "Since this showed up after your run with the parking brake ON, AND the fact that one of the warning lights is for brakes.......
    I think it is highly likely that overheated brakes fried something there.....like a wheel speed sensor."
     
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    Inverter failure
     
  4. ericbecky

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    The problem could have been there when you purchased it, but maybe it did not show up right away.
    I'm not clear, were you able to get the service history of the vehicle from the previous owner? Did this issue show up in that service history?
    Did you buy it directly from the previous owner or a car dealer?

    Just to be sure, check the inverter coolant pump.
    If it is bad, sometimes in cool weather the car will run fine for awhile until everything gets overhead.
    This could definitely mess up the converter.

    Driving a short distance with the parking brake in will not destroy an inverter. In fact I accidentally did this in my personal car today. No issue.
     
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    I was just now able to load the pics that have the error code info.
    It does not look good.
    P0A08 - dc/dc converter malfunction
    P0A09 - open or GND short in VLO/NODD signal of dc/dc converter. Converter status circuit low input.

    A used inverter can be obtained for much less than a new one. (Here it would cost $300 maybe?) If dealer can't put in a used one, hopefully you can find a willing independent mechanic.
     
  6. Kev_Prius2017

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    Thanks for the responses to you both - forgive me noobyness but could you please link me to the correct part so I can start getting some quotes for it?
     
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    I don't have anything handy right now, sorry.
    Just do a search for
    inverter

    and the year of your car on ebay.
    Probably will have part number in the description
     
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    Ok cool will do :)
     
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    Sorry I forgot to ask - how hard are these things to fit? I'm not suggesting I'll do it myself but maybe my local mechanic who is not a hybrid specialist?
     
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    Sorry sorry forgot to ask this - is it the inverter or inverter/converter?
     
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    If he can follow directions and knows how to refill and purge air from a coolant system he should be able to do it.
    Here is awesome Prius mechanic Carolyn from Luscious Garage refilling the coolant system.
     
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    Thank you so much for you help :)
     
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    May I please ask one more question?

    Are you suggesting that as the car appears to function perfectly (it's driven daily for many miles, gets 50+ MPG, battery charge goes down and up but is usually 80% +) the warnings are for a fault and not a failure? Would a failure of this part bring up different codes?

    Could this point to a secondary component failing/wiring fault etc...?
     
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    More like a failed/failing part that intermittently is causing problems.

    I suppose you can always have doubts and in the end find out it was a broken wire, or a wire that a mouse chewed through. But I can't see that over the Internet.
     
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    Bad luck mate. 28k on a 2005 seems a great find. Take a look at this an similar on ebay uk (100GBP)- search on
    Prius Gen 2004 To 2009 Hybrid Inverter 1.5

    However, from what I have read, it is an item that you will almost certainly need to get professionally fitted by a Prius specialist. It seems likely that Toyota dealers in the UK will not be willing to fit a second hand part (but you can always ask). There are independent hybrid specialists in London, Essex and in the north of England (largely for taxi/Uber operators I would guess), who would perhaps be a better bet.

    An alternative might be a complete replacement engine from a write off, which could perhaps be installed by a conventional garage/mechanic? (You would need to take better advice for this kind of outlay). Good luck!
     
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    The inverter/converter and the engine are separate.

    -Chap
     
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