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New poll Gen 2 Nav update

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Audio and Electronics' started by Another, Aug 30, 2021.

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Poll: How many people would buy a current Gen 2 Nav map disk for $100 if it were available?

  1. Yes

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  2. No

    5 vote(s)
    45.5%

  3. Maybe, but price is too high

    6 vote(s)
    54.5%
  1. Another

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    I’m trying to gauge the interest in getting the current custodian of the map database to release the interface code to an independent programmer to allow for update to the system. Would likely need hundreds of buyers to make it possible. And yes, I realize most people just use WAZE or whatever on a separate screen but the project is feasible if desired.
     
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    IMO you would need to get the price down to $50 or less to have any hope of getting this off the ground.

    There are people who are doing this (or used to do it), so it might be worth looking around. There were European based if I remember correctly.
     
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    the project is feasible if desired.

    These are the key words and the tricky phrase. There's likely not any real desire for a Gen 2 Nav system to actually be updated.

    Unfortunately, the navigation system on the Gen 2 is just too inconvenient to actually use compared to the google map app (and others) that are available on every smart phone and will pretty much work anywhere in the world. I doubt most would even invest $20 for an updated CD, unless they merely wanted it in order to try to add resale value to the car.
     
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    If you have more info I’d be interested to see it. I’ve never seen any.
     
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    Ok, then $19.99 is fine with you?
     
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    I would go higher than that easy. $50 would not be out of the question.

    I have an older-driver relative with a Gen 2 (because it's a tank), and an older driver especially ought not to be fussing with a phone in the car, but also ought not to be dependent on maps showing where roads were five years ago.
     
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    Exactly.
    I use both my phone and the Nav screen. Each has its own benefits. The larger Nav screen is a plus despite the poorer user interface. I’d use my large screen garmin but leaving it in the car just invites vandals to break in and installation and removal each ride is a pain.
    @dolj above mentioned seeing others previously looking into it and I’d like to know who they were so I could touch base with them. I’ve not seen any threads on it.
    There are many open source map data sources but starting with a Navtec derivative would be simpler. If Toyota is not interested in supporting this technology they should open up the interface information to others who would.
     
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    After seeing this on Amazon this week, I’ve decided that it’s not worth the effort to do otherwise.

     
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    An aftermarket android auto/carplay nav unit, Amazon item B08PVZRYFL, for folks whose browsers aren't set to allow the nutty amazon embeds.
     
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    I like the nav on the gen two. Would gladly pay $20 annually for a current disk. On long trips, I use a TomTom, a phone with Waze, and the Prius nav. Plus I installed a reaview mirror with an instant compass.
    Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.
     
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    Yep I’d pay more too to use the built in but Toyota apparently hasn’t heard from enough people to encourage them to rattle the buyer of the Navtec map software to release the code to developers. At any rate the CarPlay add on seems interesting for $350. Mounting it so it doesn’t have to be removed each time one parks or gets ripped off is a concern.
     
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    Sometimes the embed works sometimes it does not.
     
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    It isn't really random or anything. It will work fine for people who keep their browser security settings lax enough for it to work. For other people, nothing will show up at all; it's like reading a post that says "I saw this on Amazon last week" and is otherwise blank (though "view source" can be used to find the link).

    The nice thing about just posting a link, or even just the Amazon item number, is it will show up for everybody, without having to make assumptions about their browser settings.
     
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    I always paste the link. Sometimes it retrieves the graphic, sometimes it just renders a blank. Adding the ASIN is a good idea.
     
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    They would have to give it to me for free to even consider it, as the user interface is absolutely HORRIBLE!
     
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    Only people who use the Nav would be expected to want an update.
    You’re not in the polling target demographic apparently.
     
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