New to PiPs having battery issues

2.7kwh is good. You have a 4.4kwh pack but you don't get to use 0-100% of it. More like 20-80%

I'm not sure how you could get 3 miles on a full charge. That would be hard to do even if you held it at max EV the whole time. I'm thinking maybe there's a miscommunication in what your EV range is based on...

Gas mileage could be anything from engine maintenance to tires, brakes, etc...

I haven't heard any indication that there's anything wrong with your battery...

 

The gas engine is easy to turn on. But it should stay off if you make sure:
-Don't use climate control(it has to start the ice for heat or defrost)
-Don't let the power meter get to that last bar to the right(This one is real easy to accidentally do from a stop light or near 55mph or a Hill, etc). Eco mode will help.
-Don't go over 62mph
-Don't use B mode (it will definitely kick in if the battery gets near full)

What mileage range does your battery show when full?

I suppose if your mpg is a bit low then the problem lies in something like the tires, brakes, bearings or something that's increasing the resistance in EV as well but still cutting it in half or less is pretty severe unless you're just sitting in traffic using up the battery not moving for long periods...

 

welcome!
this is not making any sense.
have you done a range test?

do you know any of the history of the car?

 

the engine will start in colder weather. it doesn't take much with a pip. you've got to do a range test.

 

People are reading your comments, but not everything adds up from what you have said so far.

The usable capacity of the traction battery is only around 3 kWh when new, the full 4.4 kWh is never available to you, so 2.7 kWh for a full charge sounds fine. But the onboard charger will only charge at a maximum of 2.2 kW (at 220-240V), so your claim of a full charge in half an hour doesn't sound right (it should take 90 minutes). Is the battery indicator on the instrument cluster actually showing full? Can you show us a photo of this after a full charge?

Obviously, 3 miles range doesn't sound right at all. Are you sure the brakes are functioning normally? A common issue is the rear caliper slide pins can seize leading to constant wear or the brakes binding - much more likely in a colder climate where the roads are salted in winter, which I assume is applicable to New York. It's best to lubricate the slide pins at least every two years or they will cause trouble.

 

i don't know why you came either. it doesn't look like it can be fixed over the internet. might be time for a dealer evaluation.

 

Lots of good tips here, @Dax. If you won't read them and look into them, then you're not going to get to the bottom of your dilemma.

On the charge, check the charge percentage to see if it's actually charging to 100%.

On the MPG and range, check your tires, brakes, etc. to make sure something isn't impeding your progress.

And remember that cold weather will take a humongous bite out of your EV range.

 

After reading the OP (original post) @Dax I suspect there is a really good reason the 2015 PiP has had 3 owners.
If it were my car I'd try to find a fourth with.

There is no real way of recovering a weak Lithium Pack, that I know of. other than getting a backup pack, which I've seen only one person here say they've already done. And of course there were several detractor posts made about that members choice to purchase a huge? lithium pack, while his in car pack was still going strong.
Go figger...
It looks like about $700 and up for a PiP used pack from the recycle yards listed at car-part.com.
Still, no guaranties a better pack will fix your cars problems. But with DrPrius reporting 60s % cap. it's no wonder you're seeing behaviors that other here don't fully understand.

 

3 owners in 6 years is hardly extraordinary.

 

Neither are the amount of Lemon Cars being sold to unsuspecting buyers, besides all the other scams out there. Unless they are just unfortunate coincidences to the unbitten.

But I think I understand that to most, any car with 2 previous owners, is not necessarily a complete write off in this car market. And I agree with that. And I could be wrong about why I suspect the PiP with issues got shuffled around a bit already. Since it's really one of the first reports of a PiP pack showing so low a % on the DrPrius Health Check and or the other Pack test.

 

Also. please don't get the impression from my writing that I think DrPrius is dead on balls accurate. What I like about DrPrius and Hybrid Assistant is that they both give us owners who don't have techstream yet, a fairly good estimation of our packs health of lack thereof, that we can use to compare with other members test results from those apps.

 

3 owners in 6 years seems like a lot to me, but i don't have any data.

we always advise potential used plug in buyers to check the range manually.

 

@Dax Both of these posts below were not published yet when I commented below them.
Your new posts should be unmonitored either now of after you post a few more times.
Sorry that happens to everyone that starts fresh with (posts 1 - 5, I think ) to their profile.
No biggy, just more on if possible, I would have mentioned it earlier if I'd remembered.

 

a lot of anger, might be the holidays

 

The problem is that the original question is like being in 1950 and asking a scientist what the surface is like on the far side of the moon. None of us have ever seen a failing PiP traction battery even though we heard a couple reports of that happening.

Nevertheless, if my PiP had EV range but it was greatly reduced accompanied by unusually low mpg, I would be looking for anything I could find that might be adding resistance to forward motion because reduced EV range doesn't necessarily indicate reduce battery capacity and would not make the car perform worse than a non-plugin. It's that combination of low range and low mpg that points me to a mechanical problem or maybe some kind of extra electrical load.