New Video: Toyota EGR Diagnosis Tips and Repair Tips

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  1. Georgina Rudkus

    Georgina Rudkus Senior Member

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    Nutzandbolts video is more deep in detail
     
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    At the same time, interesting to see a Toyota dealership mechanic's take on it.
     
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    When I'm ready to do this, like the dealer mechanic, I will bite the bullet and spend the $200 plus dollars for the new upgraded intake manifold,

    At nearly 10 years old and just half a thousand to 26k miles, I might not even get there to service the egr in another 10.
     
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    The upgrade on the IM is EGR passages go to 1>2>4, vs 1<4, AFAIK. Simply cleaning the old one is quite easy too. I’d be more inclined to change the valve and cooler, especially if it’s high miles and REALLY socked in with carbon.
     
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    I have a fully cleaned egr and cooler. At just a little over $200, a new intake manifold is chump change compared to the price of a new car.
     
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    Its interesting the Toyota mechanic does not see the relationship between a hg problem and a sticking open egr other than one being mistaken for the other. He seems to believe the biggest egr issue is the valve sticking and not the cooler buildup. He replaces rather than cleans the egr valve, intake manifold and emphasizes loading the egr software update.
     
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    I installed updated intake manifold, new EGR cooler, new EGR valve, new EGR pipe, new water pump and oil catch can in March 2020 at 155K. COVID 19 cut back my driving a lot, have only driven about 10K since then. I wanted to have a baseline on all the EGR issues. Car runs super smooth on Costco gas and Techron fuel injector cleaner every 3 months. Hopefully dodged the EGR bullet, plan to check the EGR stuff at 50K mark.
     
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    “This is the exhaust; it’s never going to be clean”, “as soon as the customer drives it, it’s right back as it was”, and “the intake’s very difficult to clean”. I’m maybe paraphrasing a little, but anyway:

    no, no, and no.
     
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    I can imagine the 'tournament' intake design being tougher to clean out than the old straight one.
     
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    FWIW you can verify that the intake manifold's EGR ports are equal-ish by putting a water hose where the EGR pipe would feed in. Use a spirit level to keep the manifold flat and you should see equal flow out each of the four ports, which is easy to judge by how far each stream falls. Doing that before cleaning is also revealing.

    Yeah it's not a lab-grade experiment, but it can put your mind at ease over whether the internals are cleaned fairly.
     
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    I'm a big fan of not-quite-lab-grade experiments.
     
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    You should have been there when I took a hacksaw to my first-iteration 2010 intake manifold.

    For the record that plastic is tough as hell. (Personally I would no longer hesitate to clean the EGR passages with a brass bore brush if nylon didn't do the trick.) I never did get to see the innards before my 1-year-on-the-shelf rule kicked in and I binned it. Kinda regret that I never tested it with a torch.
     
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    One fat and one skinny bottle brush, a few rags and some brake cleaner: it’s clean.
     
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    Cleaning the intake is fine, if one has more time than money. If you have both to spare, I'd go with the upgraded one.

    Toyota spent millions of dollars designing and making the new upgraded manifold. They don't take this expenditure lightly. I will still buy and install the new one.
     
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    It is made of 35% glass filled nylon.
     
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    Why did you replace the egr pipe? They are easy to clean and don't wear out.

     
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    there was some stubborn crusty stuff in the pipe so I added one to an Amayama order I was preparing, I think it was $27 and the shipping charge stayed the same. So entire EGR system new and pristine.
     
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    So you saved the cooler and pipe to clean for next time?
     
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    Bought mine complete with the egr, the tube and the cooler as an assembly off of eBay, when it was apparent that there may be issues. They were cheap back then. The whole set was $120 delivered. All have been cleaned to "as-new" condition.
     
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