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Discussion in 'Generation 1 Prius Discussion' started by joeman, Aug 22, 2009.

  1. joeman

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    Just recently bought a 2002 Prius with 70k miles in really good shape. I had a pre purchase inspection done at local Toyota Dealer. Things checked out good.

    Just wondering, how I stack up to having major expenses in the future with this 1st gen Prius. I plan to only put 10k or less each year on car, so in 5 years it would have 120k. I guess the Cat Converter and the other connecting parts scare me the most for being replaced. If anyone can give me some good news about this purchase, please enlighten me. Or tell me some good search words to look up on this site.

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    No news is good news. I have no news.
     
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    I am the original poster. After reading on here some of the expenses like the cat converter and possible transmission failure in the Gen 1 cars, I ready to sell car. Even tho I'm have only owned it a few days. It only has 70k and is very clean. I thought i had done enough research on Gen 1 cars, but apparently not. I mean i could deal with the battery pack replacement, i knew about that. But other two thing mentioned above is unreal and does not make me feel good about the car i just bought. I guess I will put it up for sale and hold my breath. Unless someone can tell me otherwise a reason to keep it, i will put it up for sale soon.
     
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    Should i sell the car i just bought???

    repeat, sorry
     
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    Re: Should i sell the car i just bought???

    If you are worried about repairs, why did you buy it in the first place? Stop vacillating or you will drive yourself crazy.

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    Re: Should i sell the car i just bought???

    The likelihood that you will really have to do those repairs is very small. The Prius I is statistically still a very reliable car, above average. Yours does not have that many miles under its belt. Don't worry about problems that could happen; Worry yourself only about problems you really have. If you bought another car, would you worry that much about potential expensive gearbox or engine repair :eek:?

    I think you could never buy any car if you really think about it in this way ;).
     
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    Re: Should i sell the car i just bought???

    really keep it LOL a full brake job on my BMW was 1500.00 I have 60K on mine and my need a 12V battery, but would not sell it because of that... prius have gone ove 150K miles before needing brakes,my BMW just 60K :(
     
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    Re: Should i sell the car i just bought???

    just drive it and change the fluid in the transmission with the WS fluid from Toyota.
    Other cars have Cat problems too.
     
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    Hi Joe...,

    All used cars are crap-shoots. Cross your fingers, and maintain a healthy bank balance. If your lucky, you will get the 120K miles with no problems and you will have saved all sorts of money over buying a new car. Some Gen 1 cars have gone 250K miles without battery or transmission repair. If your not lucky, you will need some work on it, but probably will still save money over a new car. There is probably no way your not going to do worse than breaking-even. This is NO different than any other kinda car. Remeber, you do not have an alternator or starter or brakes (to about 100 K miles) to worry about in this car.

    If you want to help prolong the transmission, have the Transmission Fluid changed now, upgrade it to Toyota type WS, and have it changed every 30 to 40 K miles hence.
     
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    I think you're having buyer's remorse. I have no idea what you've been reading or where you've been reading it so it's difficult to "tell you otherwise" without an specifics to refute.

    But leave it to say that you'll be very hard pressed to find a car as reliable and fuel efficient as the Prius. At 70k miles there's no reason to think you'll encounter any major expenses for a very long time. And as mentioned by others, all cars have catalytic converters and if they go bad they are all expensive to replace. How do you know that that Corolla you buy instead of the Prius won't need a $2000 transmission or a $3000 ICE replacement? You don't.

    Take a deep breath, don't panic, drive the car for a while and see how it works out for you. There's no rush to sell that I can see. Remember that you'll find all sorts of negative reports for any car, but you have to keep those in perspective to the number of cars sold.

    Check the consumer reliability ratings compared to other vehicles. I think you'll find even the 1G Prius performs quite well.
     
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    I am starting to feel better, guess i am having some buyers remorse. Thanks efusco, and donee for the input. I will drain the tranny and but the WS fluid in instead, bet it's never been changed. I think I read that there is a coolant that is separate for the tranny that needs to be checked or changed. What's the best oil for engine, should it be synthetic, think former owner was using regular oil, 5w50. I have used non synthetic oil by Lubricating Engineers, very well know oil, but expensive.

    Thanks again, more than likely will keep car, i like it a lot.
     
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    Oh I did read about the transaxle/ transmission going out on here and ToyotaNations website. Maybe someone drove it hard.

    Just remember happening to some with under 100k. Same goes for cat converter.
     
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    Check out this site for some real-world reliability data
     
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    Thanks again everyone. The pre purchase inspection i had last week at local Toyota dealer said I needed a front brake job and the rotors turned at 70k. I do think the brakes could be a little smoother, they are not grabbing.
     
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    Geesh, I am going to say go ahead and sell it. If you are this nervous already with a car you just bought, that checked out with a pre-inspection.

    Ultimately, machines are machines. Toyota's in general have an excellent reputation for reliability. But nothing lasts forever or can be perfectly predicted.

    I'd say with only 70K miles you could reasonably expect good reliabilty but again machines are machines so who can predict?

    I think you did the wise thing in having a pre-purchase inspection, if it checked out? I'd enjoy the car you evidently wanted to buy. Who knows? You may have some expenses come down in the future, but that truth exists with any machine. If you are not buying new, or under warranty then everyone deals with those risks and realities with any car they are driving.

    I'd take my chances with a Toyota with 70,000 miles. But if you are already freaked out and worried maybe it isn't worth the stress it's evidently creating.
     
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    not to freak you out even more, but i'd be skeptical of a toyota pre-purchase inspection. unless they specifically do it for a hybrid, they're just going to look at the regular stuff like brake wear and the engine belt. a real check would involve testing the hybrid battery.

    i have 149k on my 02. i bought it used, but don't think it's ever had any brake work. i have plenty of front brake pad left, too.

    you need to change engine coolant and inverter coolant. they're different

    if you drive 10k/year, just use regular 5w30
     
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    Thanks for the advice, sound good that your 02 is doing so well.

    Going to check out brakes myself.

    if you guys read the threads above, i went from freaked out to normal.
     
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    I have owned my Prius since 2002, I have driven it all the way from California to Colorado and back I also drive it up in to the mountains every other weekend even when it snows. I have not had any problems with it that I have not caused my self. Some of those problems were even covered under waranty. I am now over 90,000 miles and still have not had to change the breaks. I have beat the crap out of my car and it is till going. I only take it to the dealer for general maintenance and repairs. Everytime I think about getting a new car I think about how much gas I have saved and the money I have saved on maintenance and decide to keep it untill it totaly dies on me. From what I read on this site I will have it for awhile. I hope this helps. :D
     
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    JENNY, Your reply is welcome as are the others. Glad that you are having good results with your car, I hope to also. I hope to stay in touch with as many people as I can on here as long as I own my car. It's a valuable resource. Take care out there in Arnoldland :D
     
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    Pat Sparks and I would would use WS in the transaxle, but Patrick Wong would stay with the original spec T IV. So there is a decision to be made.

    The coolant loops came with LLC fluid and a 30k mile change cycle. I don't know of any here who would object to SLLC instead on a 50k interval.

    As you are interested i nth ebraking system, you could go to a specialist shop and have them measure the water in the brake fluid. <1 % would be nice.