Not all HID Bulbs are created equal

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  1. qval

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    Okay, I've ordered another bulb from Amazon, but this time, not from Xenon Corp, but "sold and shipped by Amazon" instead of fulfilled by Amazon. I'll update here when that one arrives, hopefully it's better. Otherwise, I'll have to find some other source and pay more than $42 ...

    Thanks, I think I'd probably feel uneasy for 2 years if I used this bulb...
     
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    Ok if you paid $42, they are clearly counterfeit. Real bulbs on sale will be about $100 each. Phillips doesn't even sell them to distributors for $42.

    It seems like it is getting hard to find real D4R bulbs. I stay away from D4x bulbs in general because of the Hg-Free crap, but for the D2R, D2S, and D4S bulbs you are looking at $180 to $200 for a pair that are genuine. I can't see any way that Phillips would then put out their D4R bulb for $42 a pair or even $42 each. I guess it's not impossible, but you see how this doesn't seem to smell right???
     
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    It's $42 for 1 bulb. I typed philips d4r into amazon and the default is "sold by Xenon Corp, fulfilled by Amazon," but you can choose different sellers, and "sold and shipped by Amazon" is a slightly more expensive choice. Is Amazon not a trusted retailer? I'm hoping my replacement has the COA sticker and I can verify it at chk.philips.com . If it doesn't have one, I'll go spend $100 somewhere else, because I've already wasted too much time on these stupid lights :)
     
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    I love Amazon and spend a few $K a month there, but they buy and sell counterfeit items (unknowingly) all the time. The ones directly from Amazon could just be the same ones you already purchased except they were sold to Amazon by whatever other company you bought from and now sit in Amazon's warehouse vs. the other company's.
     
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    the website you recommended, theretrofitsource, is selling the D2R bulbs for $90/pair:
    Have the prices come down since this original post, or is no source sure to be reliable for authentic product?
     
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    You can try the Morimoto D2Rs. I've had good results with the Morimoto bulbs. At $50 a pair they are more reasonable and are much better quality than the cheap Chinese knock offs.

    https://www.theretrofitsource.com/components/bulbs/morimoto-xb-d2r-bulbs.html#.Vqjw7tQrJaQ
     
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    I got a pair of D4Rs (that I later assumed to be fake) off ebay for like $60 and ended up not using them and sort of forgetting about them. I replaced a failed bulb with a Philips bulb off Amazon (sold by Amazon!) and it failed in like 3 months (to their credit, they did warranty the bulb). The one off Amazon had a COA code that authenticated off the Philips website too.

    Edit: forgot to mention that I replaced the failed Philips bulb with one of the eBay bulbs and it's been going strong for 10 months now. I it really amusing that my cheap maybe-fake-and-arrived-in-bubble-wrap bulbs outlasted the supposedly genuine ones.
     
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    I did some more research and it seems there are a few Chinese sellers with the product code:

    90981-20005 selling Philips bulbs in Toyota boxes. Are we to think these could be legit from Toyota dealers in china? That's just wishful thinking, they are definitely fake.
     
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    I currently got an issue with one HID shutting off after a while of driving, then coming back ON. Currently works most of the time but still shuts off sometimes.

    The one thing I did notice was that one morning when it was still dark out, when I switched the headlights on the effected side was emitting light but very faintly. Is this the ballast or HID issue?

    I did notice one of the bulbs has white salty residue inside the capsules when I originally fitted then about 4 months ago

    LG-H901 ?
     
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    Switch the bulbs from one side to the other and see if the problem follows the bulbs or stays with the ballast.

    FYI, all HID bulbs have metallic salts in them.
     
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    OK will do, I soldered them originally but no worries.

    In regards to the salt , one of the bulbs was more salty ? Than the other when I bought them. Makes sense ? Lol.

    LG-H901 ?
     
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    Hi 2k1Toaster — I have a question about fixing the headlights in my 2007 Prius. They have been failing for a long while now, but I have simply been switching them on and off whenever they flicker or die. In fact, I have gotten in the habit of switching them on and off every couple of minutes when I drive at night no matter what, just because I am never sure if one of them has gone out. After reading your piece, I now know that this is a terrible practice. Given the damage I have likely done to the system, do you recommend that I replace more than just the bulbs themselves? I would appreciate your recommendation on exactly what to order from which vendor. Thank you!
     
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    I am looking at theRetroFitSource for D4R bulbs for 2009 Prius. They show Philips for $95 for a two pack. Anybody have experience with or opinions as to their authenticity?
     
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