Not sure what happened when I got home last night

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  1. SDB54

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    So I ended up buying/installing a new battery. 3 of the Pep Boys I called said Bosch doesn’t make the 12v batteries for Prius anymore, so the Optimus was what they had in stock, and at least it was 25% off, so thanks for the hook up!

    I guess this pic answers the question of how old my old battery was. Looks like 2014 if I’m reading it correctly?

    The place I bought the car from wanted me to wait until Tuesday for them to take their battery back and or exchange it etc. I guess they’re not familiar with people that have to drive to work and other places to get thins done in their lives, especially for the next 4 days.

    I told them they needed to make this right and to get me a replacement battery today, or reimburse me for the one that I would be happy to buy. They can deal with the shop that sold them a 5 year old battery on their time, not mine.

    They offered to pay for half of my new battery because I didn’t want to wait until Tuesday, Wth?? I smell a small claims court appearance in the near future. What complete BS, but at least I’m back up and running.
     

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  2. 2k1Toaster

    2k1Toaster Brand New Prius Batteries

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    Before you waste your time and money, a few business days is not unreasonable to make things right. That's how warranties work. You should accept the half payment and move on with your life. You must give them a reasonable time to fix the problem. Your emergency is not their problem.

    Glad you got it fixed. Also since you're new to the Prius, know that the battery is smaller than average and you should not do things like wait in a parking lot listening to music.
     
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    Going to drill that into my head :)

    Yes, glad to be back out driving, but.... what was I supposed to do for 4 days with no car? I have a 55+ minute commute to work 2x/day, as well as other places I need to get to. I can't call roadside assistance every time I need to drive somewhere?
     
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    i searched for that other thread with no luck, sorry man! glad you're back up and running (y)
     
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    No worries, thanks for looking!
     
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    Yeah I think it's 3 pairs of digits, dd/mm/yy? So 050414 is April 05, 2014?

    I doubt they bought any battery...

    I checked our old Yuasa, which I KNOW was installed in November 2010, and it has the code 240210W, which I think means February 24, 2010.
     
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    That date makes sense yes, and you’re right, they probably didn’t install anything. It’s unfortunate but What can you do?
    Thanks for checking yours
     
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    So what you said is not in context and therefore different to what the manual says.
    +1

    It maybe a good Idea, if the battery was dead flat, and was an otherwise good battery, (as in first ever full discharge), but that is all.

    ... with the car in ACC mode. If you must or need to, have the car in READY.

    One last thing, that Optima is a 36 Ah battery, and really you need a 45 Ah (or better) especially if your car has SKS. It won't last, in the long run.
     
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    Owner's Manual:

    Charge the discharged battery with the jumper cables connected for approximately 5 minutes. At this time, run the engine in the vehicle with the booster battery at about 2000 rpm with the accelerator pedal lightly depressed.

    Looks pretty effing close to me, lol.
     
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    If it makes you feel better, yes that is pretty close to what you said. The manual says that.

    My point was, in isolation that statement while technically correct, it is not advisable. The procedure in which it contained (and it is step 9 of a 13 step procedure), assumes a totally dead battery. This is not the case most times, which is my point. You can continue to argue semantics, or you can just expand your understanding to take in the bigger picture.

    The problem with general procedures, they need to try to write a procedure where one size fits all.

    Unless your battery is dead flat, that step is not necessary. In addition, it could lead to damage to fuses and even the inverter. So, it is best avoided. Ok? Happy now?
     
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    They probably bought a used battery. Not uncommon for a used car dealer to do that. They just wanted you to drive long enough for them to not pay anything. I wonder what other surprises you have in store.
     
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    Ahhhhhhh! But seriously.
    It’s going to need new front shocks/struts, but I knew that when I bought it. Still debating whether I want to try and do that job with a friend or take it to a local place?

    Any idea what a good shop price for that work might be? Of course it’s the Bay Area, so everything is overpriced
     
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    They make KYB complete replacements. Makes the job much easier, and cheaper for labor if you don’t DIY. If you want to learn contact @Raytheeagle Bay Area guys hold repair clinics sometimes.

    I’m just hoping that this dealer didn’t do a quickie traction battery repair to sell it. Anyone who would buy a used battery to save some cash is a little suspicious in my book
     
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    Oh nice! I’ll check that out, thx.
    I’ve seen a few online vids that have convinced me I could probably do it, esp with the complete replacement.

    According to the used car place, they paid approx $200 for this 5 year old battery (re-conditioned or?) I’ll see if she comes around and wants the battery back so she can exchange etc and maybe still offer me 1/2 of what I just paid for the Optimus.
    If not, I’m taking it back to Pep Boys and getting $18 back for the core charge and end of story.
    Suspicious for sure...
     
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    200 for a used battery? Sounds like baloney to me, you can get a new battery for around that price. If you pull a PA080 anytime soon let us know who the dealer was. It’s good to out bad dealers
     
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    Baloney is a nice way to say it :)
    I’ll definitely report them, as this is a s***** way to do business, any way you look at it.
     
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