oil filter difficult to remove

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by Gnarly, Feb 17, 2020.

  1. jzchen

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    Not sure I would do this. If/When the filter gives, the car may (possibly) lower onto the jack. This would press the under cover in that area and if not quickly released whatever is above the cover...
     
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    That's exactly the one I use. Fits and works perfectly.

    Yup. Too much oil on that o-ring is almost enough. And make sure it's properly in its groove.

    I have done quite a few oil changes now on the PiP and Prime. I've never touched that clip. Never had any kind of difficulty either. (y)
     
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    No, the car itself never moves. The car always remains fully supported by the rear tires and the front jackstands.

    And unlike pulling hard on a wrench, where once it breaks free or slips off, all that force you are applying instantly releases and turns into momentum, possibly leading to something bad. With a jack, the only stored energy is in the very minimal flex in the tool itself (including the breaker bar handle) or the jack's very slightly deflected structural members. So there is no similar danger. It's actually very safe.

    For most people in this situation, I will guess that the most likely thing to happen would be that their filter tool is ill-fitting (which is why they're in this situation), and will cam out and off the filter housing. But at least they will know that they pushed hard enough and the problem is with the filter tool, so they can get that remedied. There would be no need to buy a bigger wrench or pull harder, possibly dangerously.

    With a good filter tool, the only way I can see this failing would be that the filter housing itself has somehow fused internally, and will be non-explosively destroyed in this slow torque procedure.
     
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    Maybe if you're just up on ramps, 6" or so lift. If you've got a 3 ton floor jack with decent lift, and some safety stands, you've got more elbow room:

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    Put a set of these at the other end:
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    And some safety stands:
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    And I like an insurance policy :):
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    (A squat tree trunk section, under a main beam.)

    Just roughly, when settled onto safety stands, it's maybe a foot raised, at the front wheels.


    Nah, it's not even doing that, as evidenced by the topic of this thread. It is some engineer's pipe dream, basically.
     
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    Whenever you say this, for some reason those two wheels rolling off without a vehicle keep coming to my mind. Although in the second case it looked like the guy driving was a mechanic. Had a big smile on his face while making the turn. (Wheel went on straight after it came loose). Then I saw him get out and run after the wheel. Sad but that car was riding on the brake disc or whatever was left as it leaned into the turn.

    Someday we'll come on here and find the "I popped my oil cap" thread. I have "Butter Lovers" microwave popcorn ready!

    I still think trying the steel pipe extension would be good. It's what I use whenever something is stuck The longer it is the more leverage AND control you get. Large motion is translated to a tiny amount of turn... I still worry that the power of the jack pressing up may temporarily raise the vehicle, which I must confess would likely also happen with my extension idea. But the (much) longer arm will give you more control of the motion...

    moto g(7) power ?
     
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    Imagine your chagrin if they come off when you're driving someone else's vehicle. :LOL: This was in Honduras. A coworker/friend driving our boss's Nissan Patrol. Thankfully, only one wheel rolled into the ocean and that house in the background was the boss's house. Oh, and no damage. Whew!!

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    A longer handle is better, for sure, but slipping a pipe extension over a shorter ratchet, you may bust it. Or not. Better to have a ratchet or breaker bar that came longer, hopefully designed to take the greater forces.
     
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    Is that guy related to Jim Carey...?
     
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    No, but the whole story would be funny enough to somehow involve him. :ROFLMAO:
     
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