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Oil Industry 'peddling misinformation' about electric vehicles

Discussion in 'Tesla' started by el Crucero, Jun 29, 2018.

  1. Trollbait

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    The weight difference between an i3 and a Sequoia is inconsequential to road damage. Vehicle weight doesn't make much of a dent in roads until you get to commercial trucks.

    Trailers already require separation registration, and I think that works fine in most cases. They will increase the amount of fuel taxes collected as towing drops fuel efficiency. So I don't see the need to worry about tracking miles on the trailers until we get to the gooseneck and fifth wheel trailers.
    Flat fees are a horrible idea for funding the roads.

    As plug in car numbers increase, a per mile tax is the only fair tax that will work. We can't simply add a dye to electricity like we do to off road fuels.

    I have only owned cars in states that required annual inspections. So using odometer readings is an easy method, and there are already laws and regulations concerning their accuracy and tampering. Worrying about in state and out of state miles is a minor issue for the majority, like worrying about the fuel taxes lost because some people will cross state lines to fill up at cheaper stations. Then tracking such on all vehicles through GPS will increase the cost and reduce the amount of revenue collected. For those that do drive many miles out of state, the burden should be on them to track those miles, and file the required paperwork for exemptions or refunds.

    I'd start per mile taxes low, while keeping fuel taxes in place. The per mile ones can be tiered for non-plug in vehicles, PHEVs, and BEVs, but I'd wait until the plug-ins have reached a certain point of market penetration.
     
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    i find property taxes regressive, since they penalize people for maintaining their homes.

    i think there should be more travel industry taxes, to reduce carbon footprint of travel.
     
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    heck - you can't convince ½ the lawmakers that carbon even matters, much less non-renewables conservation matters.
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    i know, we're just philosophizing here.:cool:
     
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    Anybody doing it stand up?
     
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    Not really since you expect to get higher resale value for maintaining your home. In California, we have legislation that limits reassessment to 1 or 2% a year, regardless of maintenance. Now if you get a building permit to make improvements to your property, then your property can be reassessed.
     
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    that's okay if you sell.

    we get reassessed every three years for full value based on sales. they come inspect your home inside and out.
    if you maintain your home, you pay more taxes every year.
     
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    You need to move :p
     
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    don't i know it.:rolleyes:
     
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    I'd sell him our Nashville area home, but the renters sorta messed it up a couple months ago - so it'll be a while ....

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    so .... no jokes about a fire sale ... touchy subject. And yeah, our taxes will be higher because it will be a brand new house sometime by the end of next summer.
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    sorry to hear it. my bil lives in nashville, i won't be going there anytime soon.:whistle:
     
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    The little Community just south of Nashville is Nolensville, & we bought there because of the Uber low property taxes. Oh the irony. My better ½ said she grew to hate the place after a while, couldn't stand the thought of living in it live without being completely remodeled. Be careful what you wish for.
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    2 things involved. Fire Ring under the 450²ft/new $16,000 Trex deck ....... & booze.
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    ah, firewater.:cool:
     
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    Sorry to see this. Hope all was okay.
     
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    Yes - the blessing was - all 6 family members got out safely.
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    Hill sorry for your property loss...my sister lived in Bristol for quite a few years
     
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