Ok, need a little insight on the 2005 shifting problem!

it's basically plug and play. it's a box with a connector on it. you pull that vent off, and there it is.

let's see... well ours is in the shop currently (paint work) so i can't do a photo guide for you until at least tomorrow night provided it's ready to take home. and DH is off work on medical leave for a couple days and is going off to visit family... ick. let me see what i can do.

 

This is good news that the brake switch is a solution for most of the time. It may be just an adjustment away from being the solution all of the time. I would get down (or let the DH get down) and see if the brake switch is fully depressed when the brake is not pushed. Then I would stop by or call the dealer and state that the problem is 90% fixed, clearly state the details (including the check you just did), and then ask could some fine tuning be needed?

It's really hard to belive that the shifter could still be a problem when most of it was solved by the initial brake switch repair. Your patience has resulted in getting the right part identified so far.

 

Well .. the shifter is just a block of stuff with some connectors on
it. Saw several units sitting on the shelves at Autobeyours, in
fact. It's basically a set of X and Y sense coils that pick up
lever motion, and some output electronics, and it pretty much ALL
connects over to the hybrid ECU. A heat-related problem in the
shifter's electronics is plausible. A heat-related problem in the
hybrid ECU itself is also plausible, but to try and avoid being
pessimistic, I'd hope that it might even be a minor wiring thing that
got jiggled in the process of the brake switch work and became very
slightly more solid. Best case is that you'd find that to be true
and wind up with two perfectly good shifter units, and be able to
sell one for what you spent on it.
.
There are some diag tests that one *can* do on the shifter output
voltages, but not necessary -- if the thing works reliably, then one
can be pretty sure it's producing the right things. [These could
also be measured/scoped over at the hybrid ECU to make sure it's all
connected and clean in the physical domain..]
.
_H*

 

okay. you will need:
philips head screwdriver
5/16" socket
a ratchet and extension

























that vent cover will come off the same way the first one does, and you can either disconnect the connectors in there or what i did was push it out of the way.

that's the major part, getting the dash apart. DH has the camera and my phone doesn't seem to want to send a pic to my email address. the shifter assy is held in by 3 bolts, a 5/16" socket will fit. (toyotas use metric, i didn't have metric sockets here.) make sure you've got a ratchet extension, you'll need it to fit in there. and no, you don't want to use one of those small home power tool-ish things, that's what i've got and trust me it's not tough enough to take one of those out. unless you've got a real makita laying around

it should pull out once the bolts are out, and i knew there are two connectors that need to be disconnected. the rest is all the reverse of the disassembly.

hope that helps!

 

Can we please try NOT to use the word "insight" on this board? :blink:

 

OOhhh I just gotta say it!!!! Hey Galaxee !!!!!! What kind of Toyota Tech uses 5/16!!!!! Grab that Snap On 10mm!!! Metric!!! Yayy Metric!!!!! Lets hear it for the millimeters!!!! :blink:





Yes, it is Friday night and I don't have to work tomorrow and the Grey Goose has been pouring......

 

hey now, i'm the tech's wife and i don't have a metric set at home, it's just some cheapie miscellaneous non-metric home tool set. the 5/16 was the closest i could get my hands on that fit! the real matco (cough, not snap on, don't go there ) tools are all locked up in his toolbox at work.

i pointed that out too.

here i am home alone, nobody else to worry about, don't have to be anywhere till noon tomorrow. maybe i should break out the vodka tonight too.

 

Awww well.... every so often there is a bolt whose size is exactly ... Crescent Adjustable!!! If that doesn't work grab an air hammer! ( we actually have a tech who seems to use an air hammer for amost anything, including oil changes... )








Long live the russian lubricant!!

Though I must add, your instructions are dead on spot and the pics were excellant!!

 

you get a crescent in there on those shifter assy bolts and i'll buy your next bottle of grey goose.

the pics were from another project, i stole em from our archives. i pick up a thing or 2 from hubby, you could say i spend a little time at the shop.

 

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Galaxee: even though this was not a problem with my car, let me say THANK YOU for taking the time to lay out this step-by-step tutorial. It's folks like you that keep me coming back to PC!

 

Jen, i'm sorry to hear about your rough times. i totally understand. we've had a rather bumpy year ourselves, so you're among friends here. best of luck, let us know how that replacement goes!

actually come to think of it, i might even be able to show ya the last couple steps since DH brought his makita home with him yesterday.

 

5/16" is near enough to 8 millimetres

Good luck with the shifter.
I'm not keen on the swap it and see method but you might just nail it.
Thanks for the rundown on the dash strip down. It all looks kinda backward to me.
How does the vent cover come off please? Not really explained.

 

Best educated guess.... I would start with the shifter assembly since you have it already. Install is not difficult. If your DH did the DICE unit, then he was 90% there already! Double check that the shifter's connector plug didn't simply get knocked loose or have a wire pinched or tugger loose during the DICE install. Occum's Razor= The simplest answer is usually the correct one.