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Outlander on sale, & someone LIED

Discussion in 'Mitsubishi Hybrids and EVs' started by hill, Jan 15, 2018.

  1. hill

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    Noticed someone here on PC posted sales for the PHEV Outlander. So, while out running around - I stopped by the dealership & saw one. 2 price ($36K-$40K before tax rebate/state incentives) & trim levels - both trim levels have leather, & the main difference between the two trims being sunroof, blind spot warning, collision avoidance, lane departure, adaptive cruise control on the more costly level.
    Anyway, time & time again, I keep reading & hearing people saying no CHAdeMO. 240V L2 is all that it gets.
    Really?
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    Sales Critters, being devoid of all plug-in knowledge seemingly, when he told me it does DC Quick Charge, I just knew he was about to show me the L2 port. Surprisingly & low & behold
    As you can see, both trim levels have DC quick charging, & it complete in less than 25 minutes. I may seriously have to revoke my "no way would I ever buy" earlier comments.
     
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    are they available outside cali?
     
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    how come i have to be the research guy ....

    Could the Outlander PHEV put Mitsubishi back on the map? | Autoweek
    On the other hand, and just for grins I checked the mitsu dealership in Massachusetts (Keene?) and they hardly have any regular version Ourlanders - just one, so it doesn't necessarily mean they will carry it .... although they can get it.
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    Does that mean it can technically use the Tesla Superchargers?
     
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    CHAdeMO to supercharger adapters are only compatible 1way - from CHAdeMO to tesla. So even if you could cobble together a tesla formated adapter to try & charge a CHAdeMO equipped car (like kia, nissan & mitsu use) it couldn't provide the appropriate data handshake - which includes the appropriate tesla VIN / corroborated by the teslas' built in gps.
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    because you're so good at it.;)

    nice to see misty pushing the dealers, i hope it works out for them.

    2 a/c outlets with 1,500 watt output, don't tell bob wilson.:cool:

    forced air cooling, that is interesting.
     
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    ...... + 1,500Lb towing rated - as well as AWD ... not too shabby. Wonder if, or how much it will cannibalize RAV4 hybrids .... their warranty is pretty stellar too.
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    22 miles ev range, 310 mile combined range, 11 gallon gas tank, 25 mpg? meh, i'm not sure.
     
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    did i mention it's a mitsubishi?
     
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    that's definitely the downside .... unless you're daily 1way trips are under mid 20 miles - or 40+ w/ charging at the round trip turnaround point.
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    AWESOME specs! For 2013....... :rolleyes:

    It could have sold like hotcakes in the USA back then but coming to market now it's more like just another cold (but healthy) cereal choice on the shelf. I predict "OK" sales at best.
     
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    The Prime is also nationwide according to corporate, but not easy to find in some areas.

    The North American market just isn't Mitsubishi's primary focus.
     
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    I'll say. Our local mitsu dealer is a joke and is mainly a used car business. Their mitsu lot is mainly filled with low end models and the kiss of death: no trucks.
     
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    They only offer three models in the US; the Mirage, Lancer, and Outlander.
     
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    True but it's the only non-luxury PHEV SUV.

    The Lancer is on deathrow last I heard. A pity since it's a long standing nameplate. I think Mitsu NA wants to focus on SUVs for America so they may become an all-SUV line-up in the near future. (which means we may see the return of the Pajero... maybe with a different name, to compete with the 4Runner)
     
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    the Hybrid Rav4 epa btw - gets 31mpg in the city, & it's pack isn't near as heavy. This is an AWD towing capable SUV after all ... not exactly expected to have a drag coefficient of 0.23 like the Model 3.
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    bad point, but it doesn't get 26. :p maybe with the tax credit, it is competitive? just the fact that it is a plug in suv means something. i guess.
     
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    What?

    Pretty sure it's in the 30s.


    lol.. You edited it. Nice. Still wrong. It's 34mpg btw.
     
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    @hill Also, the Highlander Hybrid gets 30mpg EPA city. 29mpg combined. It's a much larger vehicle, probably just as heavy (if not a touch heavier) and yet still gets better mpg with a smaller battery and a V6. That's probably the source of @bisco 's contention.
     
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    someone LIED?:p
     
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