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Featured Parked Tesla Model 3 explodes, kills man

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by Gokhan, May 3, 2023.

  1. Gokhan

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    I look forward to a technical analysis and more details.

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    Source of this data? Fire could be started by anything like an ancient or carelessness or arson. The statistic needs a little more peering into.
     
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    Maybe I'm looking at this wrong, but are those numbers even believable?

    3.5% of hybrids catch on fire?
    1.5% of gas cars catch fire?
    1/40th of 1% of BEVs catch fire?

    If those numbers were true, shouldn't we be seeing dozens of burned out husks along the road every day?
     
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    The statistics I see are not daily odds, they are annual.
    And ICE vehicles burn so often, they are ignored by the news. Well, except during traffic updates.
    Batteries are safer than gas. But thy are the new kid on the block so media makes a big deal of the events.
    Unfortunately, they don’t stick around for the results.

    That data is also in the linked article.

     
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    They likely dropped a decimal / zero somewhere. The op sometimes posts FUD regarding ev's - so the fact that he didn't notice that hybrids have an higher instance of fires? He probably wouldn't have bothered to post. That said, that area of town by freeway underpass is sketchy to put it mildly .... the green area being relatively safe & the darker color the most dangerous. Found a human body? Go figure ....it's LA

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    I saw one the last time I went to Tunica and at least one on the 4,600 mi trip to the West coast and back. The burned out ones require special hauling to remove but they don't stay by the side of the road long.

    The source is AUTOINSURANCEEZ whom I'm not aware of. Mr. Google might provide alternate sources.

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    There is over 4.16 million miles of roads in the US. Plus driveways, garages, and other places a car could be. Plenty of space for the 400 to 500 average car fires a day to be, and a person never seeing one. I didn't see one until my mid-forties, and haven't seen one since. Well, maybe evidence of one or two others.

    Public Road and Street Mileage in the United States by Type of Surface | Bureau of Transportation Statistics

    On another note, the police were calling a recent Tesla fire in NY an accident until the owners was able to retrieve the security cam footage of a person dumping gasoline on the car.
     
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    I saw a different statistic that around 1.5% of US vehicles catch fire during their lifetimes. Most BEVs are newer but there should be an increase as they age but it is likely they are much less likely to catch fire as they don't carry gasoline. That hybrid number seems out of line but maybe they have both gasoline, electrical short, and battery risk.

    These are the numbers for 2021.
    Hybrid Cars Catch Fire More Than EV, Gas Cars Combined: Study
     
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    Many car fires start in the 12 volt system and accessories. I recall a couple of recalls over window switches causing fires.
     
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    Spontaneous human combustion.
    The car was just in the wrong place, at the wrong time.
     
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    LOL Yes, the homeless people rule and it is crime galore, but it is not that sketchy in LA. Come—tourists love it here.
     
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    Whole different kind of FUD going on here.

    I've lived in that neighborhood, and I'd take my chances there vs. Nashville anytime.
     
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    I was in Nashville Wednesday and the exit ramps with stop lights had ‘beggars.’ Not the time or place to distract the driver.

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    This is one thing I like about the current standard range Tesla, it has less flammable batteries (LiFePO4).
     
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    A little research will find virtually everyone has had issues with fires while the car was parked.
    The Rav4 had one a couple years ago with the 12V battery.
    1.9 Million Toyota RAV4 SUVs Investigated for Battery Fire Risk
    I remember a recall for Ford involving the switch in the steering column. With Honda, it was moisture getting into the window switches.

    This one is interesting cause it involves brake fluid. It's leaking and shorting something, but brake fluid itself is flammable.
    https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/gm-recalls-40000-pickups-fire-risk
     
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    That's what I was getting at. Many cars are going up in flames every day, but they don't hit the MSM unless they're EVs. When the Bolts started up, the way it was reported, you would think they were taking convents and orphanages with them.
     
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    The panic isn't limited to just EVs, but all Li-ion battery fires. NYC officials were talking about leaving Li-ion batteries outside of your apartment because of 40 fires in the past 4 years. That city is huge, and averages around 40k fires a year.