Pedal comander vs Pedal monster

Discussion in 'Gen 4 Prius Accessories and Modifications' started by Jay weeks, Oct 31, 2025.

  1. Brian1954

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    I am not arguing that the gas pedal feels more responsive with the "black box" installed. I am saying that the stock gas pedal and your right foot can get the same response from the engine/hybrid system in the car if you just push the gas pedal a little more with your right foot. In my opinion, the "black box" is a waste of money for most people, but apparently not all people.
     
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    That's literally not how it works Brian. Even their marketing side wouldn't run a million dollar idea on a false premise like that.
     
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    That is how it works.

    My 2011 Prius has three modes for the gas pedal response, Eco, Normal (default), and Power. The Eco and Power mode buttons, when pressed, just have a different curve from 0% to 100% pedal travel. Your "black box" just does the same thing as those Eco and Power buttons. Your "black box" has the ability to customize those curves to your preference. An aggressive curve just makes the car feel more responsive and fun to drive. You yourself correctly stated that 100% of pedal travel, with or without the "black box," are the same. The "black box" can not do anything different than what your right foot can do on the gas pedal.
     
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    It does NO such thing. It can only put out 0 - 100% Pedal Position.
    "torque and HP".....? NOPE. Just pedal position.:whistle:

    What ever effect it may have on the curve,,,,, WHO CARES ?:unsure:
    The PWR button does the same thing, correct?

    YOU are the Captain of your Ship. YOU command the power.

    Your right foot controls the acceleration rate,,,
    regardless what 'curve' the PP input is using,,,
    PWR, ECO, $200 dang-deal, Matters NOT.

    Your right foot is always controlling the power requested. Nothing else matters.

    But have you read about the Placebo Effect testing?
    Even when people are told they are being given a placebo, they still feel the effect !
    Could this be what "you and your friends and customers" are feeling?
     
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    Missed this earlier.

    Dang Toyota, you missed out on a million dollars.