PiP versus the Prius Prime - a True Story

Discussion in 'Prime Main Forum (2017-Current)' started by inferno, Jan 9, 2017.

  1. giora

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    Illusive display...Anyone else saw this setting procedure?
     
  2. MNdriver

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    I asked this specific question (front heated seats vs all seats) to my salesperson - important consideration in Minnesota. She said front seat only.

    That said, she was not very informed about the Prime. I'd love to hear that she was wrong.
     
  3. Lee Jay

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    The depth of ignorance with salespeople, Auto is ASTOUNDING.
     
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    This is not the site it used to be
     
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    Yeah I know. It used to be a wealth of competent technical knowledge about two generations of Prius models. Now it's four generations and the site can't keep up with it all and is crashing a lot. :p
     
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  7. bwilson4web

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    Can we blame it on the Ioniq?

    Bob Wilson
     
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    I'm blaming it on Bisco. If only he had a Prime.
     
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    bwilson4web i3 and Prime

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    "Burn the Bisco! Burn the Bisco!"

    Actually has nothing to do with the subject of this thread but I just enjoy the scene.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    The whole seat is heated. These are the best seat heaters I have ever had on any car. I use them almost everyday.
     
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    Perhaps the screen you are seeing refers to heater vents. I remember something from the early releases of the car knowing which seats were in use for directly air flow.
     
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    A photo of options on seat/back heaters. Driver only or all seats.
     
  13. Lee Jay

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    I think that's about S-Flow mode:

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    Agree absolutely.
     
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    meaning the pip, not prime.
     
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    Oh jeez. You may want to be clearer in your responses.

    The way you worded your response, it sounded like you meant only the seat bottom is heated, to which I replied that the seat bottom AND seatback are heated (and so did other people).

    What you're saying (now that I think I've deciphered it), is that you're saying the front seats are heated, not the rear seats.

    Yes, that's correct.
     
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    Here's an update for those who are interested.

    Through the lifetime of my PiP:
    • 42,583.2 miles driven
    • 67.2134318 MPGe
    • $0.046468 average cost per Mile on gas
    • $0.042497 average cost per Mile on electric
    • $0.007362 average cost per Mile on electric considering my Solar...
    • 5.01341993 Miles per kWH average
    Of course this includes 2.5 years of ownership, includes winter, spring, summer & fall...in the Northeast.

    So far with my Prime:
    • 3,323 miles driven
    • 98.32581992 MPGe
    • $0.072785 average cost per Mile on gas (this is higher than above BECAUSE HV miles and EV miles are measured differently)
    • $0.027281 average cost per Mile on electric
    • $0.007312 average cost per Mile on electric considering my Solar...
    • 4.6125 Miles per kWH average

    Considerations:
    • Again, EV range and what not is calculated differently from PiP to Prime.
    • My cost per Mile takes into account electric costs here, but does not take into account there are some regen miles on there.
    • Prime is only driven in the winter.
    • I'm truly excited to see what this puppy can do in the summer. AC should run way more efficiently than the heat pump.
     
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    Bringing this thread back from the dead...I have new updates here.

    On a trip where the PiP brought me to around 70-75 MPG in 50 degree weather I managed 162 MPG. Out of 49 miles in the Prime only 7 were used for Gas! I couldn't believe it...

    I wonder what would happen if I drove a Volt 1st gen. It's crazy to think the Prime is 55% of the Volt 1st Gen Capacity yet can match its metrics. I know it's not apples-to-apples and my driving style dictates it...

    FYI the average speed is around 44 MPH, mixed highway 55-60 MPH and back roads 30-40 MPH. Highway takes up about 60% of my commute.
     
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