Plug-In owners should consider the Energy Saver A/S

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  1. F8L

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    Plug-In owners should seriously consider this tire as a replacement tire when the time comes.

    Numerous reviews and tests have shown that the Michelin Energy Saver A/S can improve mpg by 2-3mpg over OE LRR tires and much more compared to non-LRR tires in the same class. Because the PIP specializes in low speed EV operation, and rolling resistance is a large determining factor in mpg and EV range at low speeds, you owe it to yourself to maximize your range by choosing the most energy efficient tire that fits your needs.

    Fuel efficiency studies have shown that at low speeds (below about 40mph) rolling resistance plays one of the largest roles in total fuel efficiency. As speed increases, air drag becomes more important and rolling resistance decreases in importance. So it is my belief that in order to maximize efficiency at low speeds and stop & go situations one should:

    1. Run a LRR tire that is properly inflated or even better, slightly over-inflated (up to max psi on the tire sidewall).
    2. Remove extra weight from the vehicle. I.e. junk that you don't need and never use.
    3. Use lightweight wheels if you choose to go aftermarket.
    4. Use my "guide" to reduce the mpg impact of the air conditioning system.
    5. Park your car facing "out" when choosing a parking space. This eliminates time and fuel wasted trying to back out of a spot.

    All other hypermiling techniques may provide additional increases in efficiency but the ones listed above are particularly important for low speed operation and maximizing EV range from a rolling resistance standpoint as well as getting a heavy vehicle moving standpoint. ;)

    For more information on the Michelin Energy Saver A/S
    Michelin Energy Saver A/S Review | PriusChat

    For more information on reducing the mpg impact of A/C
    How to Reduce MPG loss Because of A/C Use | PriusChat
     
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    let's see... 750 mile in 6 weeks, 40,000 mi. estimated life of originals, sounds like 2018? i want them now! :confused: anybody wanna buy 4 integreties?:rolleyes:
     
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    I bought a set for my old Gen II just before the PiP came in. So I've been able to watch the mileage on those tires (my wife is driving that one now). I was expecting a double hit because of the newness of the tires and the newness of the driver. But even with those two variables, the mileage did not take a hit. It hasn't increased either, but that's likely due to the variables I mentioned. Selfishly, I should've waited another few weeks for the PiP, then taken it AND the Gen II at the same time and done a tire swap to get the EnergySaver A/S set on my car.

    The price was not that great at Discount Tires ($107.00/tire) but I got a $70 Visa Card from them, so that brought the price down into mid $90s.
     
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    Good husband, she won't be stressing that she is doing wrong.
     
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    She's just happy that instead of $60 fill ups every week, it's now $30 fill ups every other week. Venza is a very nice car, but it is not thrifty with gasoline. 22mpg at its best, and almost always less than that.
     
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    Shame on bisco for running Integritys. :p
     
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    if i can save 3 mpg, over 40,000 that should save me $150. at an average of $5./gal. over the next 6 years. that wil payy for 2 tires, should i put them on the front or back?:confused:
     
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    Oh now you are just trying to hijack this thread and turn it into another "where should I put my two new tires" post. We all know how those turn out. LOL
     
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    Best traction in the back, ideally that would be the newest tires.
     
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    i have no idea whatsoever of what you are talking about. jimbo does tho...:D
     
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    Yeah, but you know … with the drivetrain up front, that changes the mass/traction ratio somewhat…
     
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    we definitely need a chatroom, these posts are getting confusing!
     
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    So it is even MORE important to get your best traction tires in the back, the fronts will get help from the weight of the car.
     
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    i think i was quite successful.:cool:
     
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    Grrrr LOL
     
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    GenII and III/PiP have different size tires. Your II would have ended up with a larger than std. tire.
     
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