Poll: Would you drive 10 extra mins r/t to be able to do it all EV?

Discussion in 'Prime Main Forum (2017-Current)' started by stevepea, Oct 21, 2019.

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  1. Street (5mins longer each way/10mins longer round trip, but all on EV and more direct)

    25 vote(s)
    83.3%
  2. Fwy (5mins faster each way, but out of the way, and gas would come on before back home)

    5 vote(s)
    16.7%
  1. stevepea

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    Okay, time for a poll, everyone.

    For somewhere you either regularly -- or semi-regularly -- go, would you be willing to be in the car an extra 5mins each way/10mins round trip doing more direct (but slower, and with signals) street driving to be able to do the whole roundtrip on EV? Or would you choose the freeway route (5mins faster each way/10mins faster round trip), just a little bit out of the way, but faster because it's freeway -- but the EV range would be a little too short, and gas would come on or the last couple miles each time?

    Edit: Here's the choices that I'm facing:
    24mins/12.0miles each way (direct via streets & signals, can do round trip all on EV)
    19mins/15.2miles each way (bit out of the way, almost all fwy, at fwy speeds, so ICE comes on a few miles from home on the return trip)
     
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    Over what base distance or time?
     
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    5 min is nothing for me. I will most likely to choose more economical way. That being said, more economical may or may not be all EV for me. In our region EV and HV is currently dead even for the cost/mile. Moreover, even if one is more economical, if that rout turns out to be more stressful, for example with a tail gaiter or traffic jams, I gladly pay more to take a relaxed enjoyable drive.
     
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    i'm already doing everything possible to keep it in ev, but time is my friend.
     
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    At only 5 minutes a way delta, first I'd take the least stressful, and if they're the same, then the most economical.
     
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    I would certainly take the extra few minutes to go all EV. I have no problem driving ten or thirty miles on the ICE, but I really hate to have it come on when I am about a half a mile from home. Doesn't seem to be good for the engine if you shut it down before it has a chance to warm up.
     
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    I agree with everyone else. 5 minutes is nothing to save the ICE from coming on. I'm in a similar situation except I drive right at 25 miles one way to work, charge at work, then make the trip home. I have the choice of going on the highway @ 70 mph or a smaller farm-to-market road that has a lot of curves and top speed limit of 60 mph but is a more direct route between home & work so therefore slightly shorter distance. There are days I may still take the highway such as bad weather or if I forgot to charge the car but more often than not I choose the slower route just so the ICE doesn't come on a mile or two before reaching my destination.
     
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    Time is not your friend in the winter. The heater can burn up a lot of charge...
     
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    ETC(SS) The other One Percenter.....

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    ....polls are for dancers.

    Less time?
    Less stress?
    Less wear and tear?

    No Brainer.
     
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    heater?!?!? we don't need no stinkin' heater :p
     
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    Just put on a coat!
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    Street. 5 mins is nothing as traffic and signal timing can vary that. Plus you save 30 miles a week on the odometer! That’s 1,500 miles a year (I left 2 work weeks out to account for holidays that may land on a weekday and time off assuming you drive more than 15 miles such that your delta is < zero so you’re not saving mileage)
     
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    We live In Mannum South Australia and it is a 160km round trip to the capital city Adelaide were we quite often have to go to pick up gear for the workshop. The highway is quick, but a few big hills, so the Prius with its plug in battery pack needs to use the petrol engine to stay in front of the B double trucks (a truck with 2 trailers set up much like the tractor and trailer rig in the US) so we don't get tyre tracks across the roof. There is one alternate route that is exactly 5km longer that avoids the high speed section with the trucks but brings us back to the highway just in time to do the long regen trip down the biggest hill into the outskirts of Adelaide. Here the big trucks are restricted to 40km/h and have their own lane, it is very long down hill run and the trucks burn out their brakes if they don't engage a low enough gear to hold the 40km/h. Add to that, at the very bottom of the hill is a major intersection with complex lane structure and traffic lights to distribute the traffic to different sections of the city.
    To make the trip back home there is an even longer route through a lot of the city but it avoids the big hill. This means with a few hrs recharge while parked up in the city we can go to Adelaide and back on all EV

    T1 Terry
     
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    I make this decision daily, once it starts getting colder, temps below 45f.
    Even when it's cold I could stay off the highway and make it to work and back on a charge, but I dont. The extra traffic, and it's accompanying stress isn't worth it for me. It would also add more than 5 minutes, more like 20-30 in the afternoons going home.

    For me it's enough to use ICE on the way to work in the morning on the highway, about 15 minutes. That's when I'm more likely to need the heat anyways so it makes sense. Then on the way home I can often do it EV only.
     
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    I take back roads to work in the early a.m., then highway back. I usually get home with a couple miles to spare. If I took the highway to work in the a.m. I'd be going >70mph and burning up battery, when I go home it's usually stop and go so I put on OpenPilot and relax.

    OP isn't as good at energy conservation as a human, but it's not horrible
     
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    Being similar the lenght of the journey, energy consumption wise the freeway (i.e. a route without traffic lights and interceptions) is generically preferable, provided that the speed does not exceed 50-55 mph.
    However, I voted for the first option because, although the above policy is generally profitable in Europe, I recogniize that could be a little difficult to implement in US, considering that
    1) due to the design of US freeways, if you occupy the rightmost lane, shortly you will find yourself in an exit lane, so you have to stay in a middle lane, but
    2) if you stay at slow speed in a middle lane, the other drivers get upset on you because you are slowing down them, also you can be fined because from the policeman perspective you are hindering the traffic flow
    3) last, but not least: in US, the trucks are not bound by law to maintain a speed lower than cars, and for a car to proceed at a speed lower than trucks, may be dangerous, some time.
     
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    Aye! Instead, in the UK, I use airconditioning early in the mornings - usually for windscreen defogging, when it’s presently 7c and very damp. Manually set a/c to 16c, lowest speed; I also wrap up nicely. Turning the heating up any higher uses lots of fuel. I’m saving money here!

    p.s. I also have an unintended seat warmer under my seat - in the form of a Cellink Neo 6 Lithium Ion Battery Unit, installed on top of the existing Amplifier unit.

    It’s sole purpose is to provide 24/7 power for my Thinkware F800 Pro dual channel dash cam system specifically in parking mode.
    The Cellink Neo 6 gives off a bit of heat when it’s being charged (which is whenever I’m driving).
    A full charge lasts about 36 hours - and it takes approximately 45 minutes to fully charge from empty.

    Free seat warmer right there!
    The supplied Bluetooth application on my phone recorded internal temperatures as high as 35c while the Cellink Neo 6 was charging during summer.


    iPhone 6s +
     
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    In ma, in the winter, if you do not have the heater system on, the windows will fog very badly, and this happens when you switch the system off. You can pulse and glide with the heater, but bottom line is, the longer the heater is on, the more the battery drain.

    In my garage, I drop in a space heater at the end of the day, and with a timer, the car can be nice in the morning. But, at 10F outside, that only buys you 10 minutes before the windows fog.
     
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    I can't imagine not using it if it's cold, it's worth the money!
     
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