Price of a kilowatt

Discussion in 'Prime Plug-in Charging' started by stanley soroka, Oct 6, 2016.

  1. bhtooefr

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    133 MPGe means 133 miles per 33.705 kWh of input (read: at the J1772) energy.

    Range is stated as 25 miles.

    133 mi / 33.705 kWh = 25 mi / x kWh
    x = 6.3

    And, that 6.3 kWh is including charging losses. Note that it may not be exactly accurate - there's plenty of room for error in the stated figures, but I'd say it's close enough.
     
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    This 6.3 kWh per charge is close to double the amount we know from the PiP, which is around 3.1 or 3.2 kWh per full charge. This would imply that the usable part percentage is kept the same.
     
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    if they got 25 miles out of the epa without the ice firing, that's amazing.
     
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    If I owned a Plug in, it would virtually cost me Pennines. I only pay $39 bucks a month in electricity my highest being 45 bucks as I was running a couple servers from home.

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    Just to add a Uk perspective, I calculate that my Gen2 costs about 10 or 11 pence per mile with petrol at the current price, of which the cheapest in my neck of the woods is 1.08 GBP per litre.

    And that a Prime in pure EV would cost me about 1 penny per mile on night rate electricity, which currently costs me about 6 pence per kwh.

    I also guesstimate that maybe 6,000 of my 9,000 miles per year could be done on E.V. only in a Prime.

    That's a decent saving, the unknown being how much of the extra cost of the Prime over, say, a standard Gen4, I can get back when I sell.

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    Most utility rates have tiers. Your average cost per kWh could be $0.15/kWh but buying and using a plug in car could push you into the next tier where the cost per kWh could be $0.22 or more per kWh so your cost to recharge would be $0.22/kWh on the margin. Know your rate structure and where you sit in the structure.

    When you factor in the added cost of the car, modifications you may need to make to your home electrical system and the cost of the electricity vs gasoline in many cases this decision should be viewed as a "lifestyle" want rather than an economic decision.
     
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    That really depends on where you're located, for whether tiers matter for residential users.
     
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    do you have pricing yet?
     
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    If you mean new pricing for the car in the UK, no, not so far as I am aware.

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    You may be speaking from a U.S. perspective but my UK rates are not tiered according to use, and so far as I know, this is not allowed at present in the UK for domestic users. Energy prices are regarded as a fairly hot political issue here and governments keep imposing new rules regarding them.

    I stand by my post that there is definitely an economic case for me, depending on the residual value compared with a non plugin Gen4.


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