Prime in Super White

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  1. PiPLosAngeles

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    I prefer white cars for utilitarian reasons (mainly summer heat). I can't stand Blizzard Pearl. My PiP was sea glass pearl because I preferred to bake than pay for a color I can't stand. Every time I got into that hot car for 7 years I cursed Toyota and occasionally extended a digit at the emblem on the steering wheel. 1,700 times is a lot of times to feel animosity towards the person or persons who decide the Prius drivers get the privilege of being denied white cars.

    I got lucky finding my 2018 Prime in Super White, but looking at 2020 for potential upgrade for the wife's car it looks like it's not an option again. What does Toyota have against offering the Prius in white? Or is it available, but difficult to find?
     
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    My understanding is that super white was a cheaper color intended for basic models or cars for commercial use while blizzard pearl was a more attractive white for those who wanted a white car. Super white was last offered in the 2019 Prime models. I suspect you are in the minority if you prefer super white over blizzard pearl.
     
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    If the issue was lack of popularity Toyota wouldn't offer just about every other Toyota in Super White, at least not if they follow any kind of logic. It's like there are two diametrically opposed factions within Toyota: the engineers and the "others." The engineers are superb beyond words, but it seems almost as if the people responsible for making non-engineering decisions intentionally antagonize customers.

    "Let's make the car capable of receiving time signals from GPS, and let's use that hardware to set the clock on one display but leave the other one controlled by cheap quartz crystals just to drive them crazy."

    "Hey, let's make the Prius family available in colors found across the Toyota lineup ... except white. They can't have white."

    "Let's build the Prime with one less rear seat for no reason in particular."

    "Let's conceal the total EV miles from the customer."

    "Let's drop the 12V system voltage down to 12V or below while driving (instead of the 14V we have in park and that every other car on the planet has while running) to make sure that the voltage drop in the system wiring is sufficient to get us below 10V when drawing 7A at the power outlets. We'll make a lot of the driver's 12V devices useless in the Prius."

    "Let's give the throttle sensitivity different values for EV and HV modes. It will be fun when the EV runs out and the car suddenly decelerates like the driver took their feet off the pedal."
     
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    And lets make sure they have to set both clocks when you change to DST and back! (Come on Toyota!)

    I don't understand that one either -- it has to be intentional..
     
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    I thought Super White was available only for fleet vehicles. At least that was the way back in 2017. Maybe the same for 2020???
     
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    I'd welcome a non-metallic white. And a few other non-metallic colours too please.
     
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    I can only answer that I got a non-fleet 2018 Prime Plus in Super White without having to look too hard. I hate the metallic bad enough that I'm almost willing to pay someone to strip the car and paint it white, but to do it right would easily cost $5,000 and I'm not willing to pay that much, so I bake in some other color and curse Toyota every day from May through October.
     
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    Yeah, maybe it was available in CA? FYI, Toyota site for the 2020 model does not have "Super White" as a choice of exterior color.
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    That's what prompted this post. They let us have just a little taste and then yanked it away again. Now I know I have to keep this one until the wheels fall off. I was going to pass up buying a Prius this last time based about 50% on the lack of white as an option, but luckily it was available at the time.
     
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    I'm a little incredulous regarding this. :confused:
     
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    I also live in Los Angeles. I'm curious, just how much cooler does a white car keep the interior? My 2010 is the basic silver, but I've always wanted the seaglass pearl (my favorite color is green). Though I also think that the gen 4s, that aren't primes, only look good in black so when I eventually upgrade I'm either hoping to find a great deal I can afford on a prime or hope to live somewhere with garage parking. I get annoyed by the summer heat as well, but the window shade and tinting helps a bit.
     
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    It's quite literally true. Every time I would get into my not white PiP I would be reminded about how my current discomfort was the direct result of Toyota's marketing choices. Every single time.
    About 20 -30 degrees difference in the temperature at the paint surface according to an infrared thermometer. I used to drive a black car and on those days that it's 110°F+ the A/C couldn't even keep up, but my white cars could be kept cool as a cucumber. It's not about how hot it will get sitting there (all vehicles will reach equilibrium at the same temperature at some point), but the rate at which it heats up. The slower the rate the cooler you can keep the car.
     
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    The lighter colors can't be bad though: (groaner alert) it's not black and white.

    Maybe one reason I'm perplexed, we drive mostly lower speeds, around town, and when it starts to warm up, start rolling the windows down. Rarely use AC, more so in our rainy winters, to clear the windshield.
     
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    Does Toyota make a lighter color on the Prius that's not metallic? As far as I can tell your choices for non-metallic paint are blue, red, and black.

    You know the feeling when you open the oven to take a look at whatever food is baking in there? That's what it feels like to roll down the window when it's 115°F outside, no hyperbole. Plus, in our traffic I will not roll windows down or allow "fresh air" setting on A/C.

    For cleaner air, set car vents to 'recirculate' study says - Los Angeles Times

    I even use a HEPA filter in the car because my commute can be two hours each way, sitting behind Diesel trucks.
     
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    I think Super White is all they have; all the other's are metallic, or "pearl". I'm with you there; would welcome more non-metallic color choices. (y)

    Touche, know the feeling, appreciate you're a smidge closer to the equator. Some other LA denizen was trying to explain it to me a while back, to put things in context, said Beelzebub lived up the block... :ROFLMAO:
     
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    I think if we could force the people who make these choices to spend a summer driving a Prius around Tucson, Phoenix, Blythe, or Needles not another year would pass with white being unavailable.
     
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    In my neck of woods, I welcome all the sunshine I can absorb in winter time, but 2017 PRIME did not have plain simple BLACK.

    2017 Toyota Prius Prime Exterior Colors
    The six paint color options include: Magnetic Gray Metallic, Titanium Glow, Classic Silver Metallic, Blizzard Pearl, Hypersonic Red, and Blue Magnetism.
     
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    I am not sure I get it. Wouldn't Blizzard Pearl reflect or not absorb just as much sunlight as super white? I actually paid extra for that color when I bought mine; not only because I like the color, but because it would be cooler in the sun and not show dust and dirt as a darker color would. We also have a Lexus in almost the same color. For someone to abhor Blizzard Pearl but love the cheap white paint used on commercial vehicles seems strange to me.
     
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    Dianne Whitmire at South Coast Toyota in Costa Mesa CA has special ordered Prii in Super White so she can probably get you one if you're willing to wait.
     
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    Same here. I'm not sure if it's true or not, but someone once told me that living and breathing in LA was like smoking one pack of cigarettes a day. The smog today isn't nearly as bad as it was a few decades ago so maybe now it's more like a few cigarettes a day if you're outside a lot or driving with your windows down in traffic. Either way, my windows stay up and I recirculate the air unless I'm driving early morning or late night.
     
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