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Prime Total and Electric Range Question

Discussion in 'Prime Fuel Economy & EV Range' started by JackJ, May 28, 2017.

  1. James2012

    James2012 Junior Member

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    I drive from Chino to Anaheim every day (60 then 57) then reverse - all in the carpool lane with dynamic cruise control. In the morning, there's the usual stop/go traffic (takes an average 45 minutes to drive) and I get there with battery only left over. On the reverse, I usually come home after the stop/go traffic (takes an average of 30 minutes to drive) and I will definitely run out and swap to gas/electric with another 5 miles to go.

    Is this typical for everyone else - that if there's no stop/go traffic, the Prime will likely run out of juice? I assume it's because I'm driving at a higher speed.
     
  2. fuzzy1

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    That sounds reasonable. While the stop-and-go itself doesn't help, the lower speeds of such traffic often significantly boost MPG, compared to free flowing full speed conditions, on our older non-plugin Prii.
     
  3. stevepea

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    Yes, the battery lasts longer going at slower speeds (with stop and go to help recharge) than just going 65 (or 70) on the freeway.
     
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    it all depends, no question that lower speed eg 60mph uses less energy than 70mph, however, in my case of a 50 mile commute i go ~ 40 miles on EV incl ~31 miles on the fwy @ 67 w/DRCC (you can look "My EV range story". I'm chasing my commute hours to be after stop/go ... @James2012 you say "higher speed", unclear what that is, if you can try to not exceed 65-67 and see what difference that makes
     
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    from my experience on flat Houston roads if I hit the highway and go for posted speed + 5mph the E/v range falls below 30 - say 27-8 at 65mph+, but if take rural routes and can deploy some gliding below 50mph the E/v is in 33-35 miles range.
    as All keep saying the E/v range really suffers at Highway speeds.
    should I drive stretches beyond 30 miles I'd use HV for HVy driving.
     
  6. CaliforniaPrius

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    Today I did some field test. Before the trip, the dashboard showed 27.8 miles.

    Hit the hwy at 79 mph, EV mode: electricity ran out at 21 miles. Considering $0.2/kwh, the 6.6 kwh translates into 15.9 miles/$

    Same distance at 79 mph after EV ran out: 51 MPG. Considering $2.8/gallon gas, it translates into 18.2 miles/$
     
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  7. James2012

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    Thanks for the confirmation guys... California drivers get angry when you go sub-70 when there is no traffic. lol
     
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    Some of us have noticed, even two states away. Though I had to cheer when one such tailgater finally blew around me -- one corner before the waiting speed enforcement (exiting Greenwater, on road back from Mt. Rainier National Park). :D She had absolutely no 'herd protection' whatsoever, and quickly learned why I had been obeying the posted limit the entire time.
     
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    Someone actually got pulled over for speeding ? Now that's a sighting !

    I've noticed that lately, but have attributed to the high heat (upper 80's) and and the fact that it's cooler in the mornings.
    Also my car has a black interior, and gets super hot in my employer's parking lot.

    That air conditioner will drain the battery !

    jp
     
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  10. fuzzy1

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    In a number of the places I frequently travel, it is not at all unusual. Remember that if you are traveling out of state and notice yourself passing numerous cars with local plates.
     
  11. CharlesH

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    High 80s is hot? Forecast for the Sacramento area for early next week: 108°F
     
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    Yeah but ours is the DRY heat... Theirs is the HUMID heat. You pick up several degrees for the damp feeling. :giggle:
     
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    Let's compare our PIP (pain in posterior) weather stats in January, shall we?
     
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    The hottest I've ever felt was 99F and 85% humidity in Washington DC last year. That was far worse than 120F in Arizona.
     
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    I agree. In NJ, during the summer with humidity over 80% any temp over 80 is very uncomfortable. But when I was in Nevada, 100° was not a problem.
     
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