Prius C No More?

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  1. DKTVAV

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    They didn't have one in the Toyota booth at the Detroit auto show.

    I'm glad we got one while we could! The Corolla is the wrong size for us.
     
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    My C routinely beats those ESTIMATED NUMBERS for the Corolla.
    Not by much but it does.

    Those are ESTIMATES folks and are seldom borne out in real life.
     
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    Yes, just estimates computed from a standardized test applied to all cars. Some drivers / routes / conditions fall short, while others routinely do better, sometimes much better.

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    That's the truth, but so many take it for gospel....
     
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    How is a Corolla a Prius C replacement and why do they bring up the two together?

    Be like announcing an EV semi after the Hybrid Tahoe was discontinued.

    The Two have nothing to do with one another
     
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    The Corolla is going to be the new entry-level wireless hybrid, and the C-type is going to go bye-bye.

    Frankly, I'm VERY surprised that the Priussy had an 8 year run, because I've always thought that it was to little to be big and to big to be little. The scrappy little car has earned my respect by being the most reliable of Priuses, and unlike other cars it punches above its weight in fuel economy - but you PAY for those two features by buying a car that's nearly as expensive as the adult-sized Prius.
    Since "pricing" hasn't been announced for the Corolla, I'm thinking that you're going to big for that one too!

    Frankly, I'm wondering why they're keeping the wireless Priuses AND the Corollas, since the Corolla is almost exactly the same size, and the new hybrid Corolla will probably be as close to a non-prime Prius in price as it is in fuel economy.

    Considering the....ah......'interesting' body style of the Prius and it's lackluster sales, I'm thinking that a Yaris/Corolla/Camary lineup might be the new way to 'go before.'
    I'm liking the idea of a Camary in PHEV trim!
     
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    Maybe it is because the Corolla Sport hatchback will be the closest thing they have left in their product line ???
    Will it be available in a hybrid ? I don't know.
     
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    If you remember way back....
    Originally Toyota seemed focused on creating and marketing "The Prius Family".
    With the demise of the Prius v, and now the Prius c, obviously the family of Prius idea is dead.

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    Who knew that the much-talked-about "Prius killer" might be a case of fratricide?
     
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    Agreed, the standardized tests have value. I think the main value is in differentiating cars from each other, not as a prediction of one's individual performance. My 2015 C 2 is averaging 52 mpg, based on odometer and gas station pumps. Presumably, if I were to drive the 2020 Corolla in the same way, I might get better mileage than I'm currently getting. I think the Prius C is in a perfect sweet spot for me. I love the looks and the gas mileage and the docile handling. I love being able to park in almost any legal spot in San Francisco. We do not have enough cool small cars in America, and the shortage is even worse for cool affordable cars.
     
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    Parking was something I noticed during a visit to Rome a few years ago. With a shortage of space, parallel parking spots were quite compact compared to American standards. But the locals had taken to putting two Smart cars in each space, nose- or tail-in rather than parallel.
     
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    I still think this car would have done better if they'd kept the Aqua name for USA sales. Putting a Prius badge on it didn't help anything or anyone.

    It's pricey for the size, but never marketed for its strengths. Heck I can't remember them advertising these at all.

    I can't quite reconcile the idea that it was ever meant to be an entry-level hybrid. It was a high-end subcompact that happened to be a hybrid, and there isn't any real replacement- this is Toyota backing out of the subcompact market apart from the entry-level Yaris.
     
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    Back in 2015 when I was in the market for a new car, I had negotiated the lowest price for Prius C with a dealer by e-mail. When I arrived at the dealer, I found out that regular Prius Two was priced lower than my negotiated price on C with Toyota incentives and such. Naturally, I ended up buying regular Prius. Toyota never really tried to cell Prius C.
     
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    I think that the car would have done better if they had stuffed the full-size [sic] Prius' drivetrain into the Yaris-sized car, but that's me being me again....:D

    Oh...I sure as heck do!!!
    (palm-slap...)
     
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    They advertised heavy in 2012... a little in 2013, but then stopped almost completely.

    Adding Prius to the name, I believe, hurt the sales.
    I also think that the Corolla Hybrid will kill the full-size Prius... which may be where Toyota is going with this... get rid of the bad press and name of the Prius, while still having a car that gets 50+ MPG. As previously mentioned by someone, the Corolla dimensions are almost identical.
     
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    Just like GM. Suddenly you find your development costs have gone through the roof and you have to shed brands and models, go to common platforms, etc. In the Hybrid space, first it was the v to be replaced by the Rav4h. Now the C. With a Camry/Avalon hybrid also in the space do we really need the Prius hatchback? And even the Plug-in Prius ought to feel threatened.
     
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    Yep. With the hybrid powertrain now fully developed and deployed across the range of cars, the Prius itself comes off more and more like a Corolla with a weird back window and a 90s fever-dream cockpit.
     
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    The whole Prius family of cars is in trouble. Combined they didn't even sell 3,000 cars in January of this year. In a way, I kinda think the name "Prius" probably hurts it. Contrary to the fans/owners at this site, people generally see the Prius in a negative way. Any of you ever been made fun of? Know I have on multiple occasions.

    Toyota Prius family US car sales figures
     
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    I own one and I see the Prius name in a negative light... :(
    I think Prius and I think egg-car... even with the new changes.
     
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