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Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by Vanne, Apr 27, 2014.

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  1. Vanne

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    Hi there

    I accidentally have the check machine red icon on my
    Car firstly I have departure the car without close the door after I turn off the car and turn on again it appear the check engine red icon and after that a few minute my Car can't start and have long beep sound and my car timing reset to wrong and seem mess up everything now what I can do just turn the car off and can't do anything with it please help advise on these problem

    Appreciated you all for help
     
    #1 Vanne, Apr 27, 2014
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    If you left the door open most likely the 12 volt battery in the back hatch area is dead. That battery is used to boot up the car. Very common failure.

    Don't turn the car on but just turn on the headlights and see how bright they are. If no lights or very dim that battery is dead. Many alternatives to the original factory battery here but not sure what you have over there. For comparison the factory battery at our dealer charges $250 for this battery plus installation.

    Do you have Smart Key System or do you need to stick the fob in the slot under the steering wheel to start the car? If no Smart Key System (SKS) that car will then use a slightly smaller battery current wise. Slightly cheaper.

    I say replace because it may be the original or very old and it is very dangerous to jump start this car. Easily cause accident by getting the polarity's wrong. If you must jump the car make sure polarity is correct to under hood front jump points and do not let the donor car run or race the motor. The donor car engine should not be on.
    Please review your owners manual for location of jump points. Under hood to the right of silver box (Inverter) inside the black plastic fuse box. Inside that box flip up red plastic cover. Thats the B+ or POSITIVE terminal. Use the bolt on the chassis right above it that holds the strut on for GROUND.

    Good Luck.
     
    #2 edthefox5, Apr 27, 2014
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    Charging the battery for 20 minutes or so is another good option.

    MUCH less likely to cause any damage......even if the leads are accidentally reversed.

    And if the battery is over 3 years old, a replacement probably is in order.
    If it is the original 12 V battery that came with the car new in 2005.......then you are lucky that it lasted this long and a replacement is definitely required now.
     
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  4. Vanne

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    dear all, thank you very much and appreciated for help anyways my 12v battery is still work normal
    i hope nothing seriously then that
     
    #4 Vanne, Apr 27, 2014
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    How do you KNOW that the 12V is working normally ??
    The odds are GREAT that it is NOT.
     
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    have you checked the fusses? also, your oil level may be low.
     
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    normally means the car isn't starting!
     
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    Now my car sometime start and sometime can't
    When I press power button it not start and engine check icon appearing and flashing like sos sign and the power button lighting up and off and rapidly reapeat
    And I wait about 2mn and I turn off smart key and insert
    Key to fob it start normal and I don't know for suure just
    Keep the care about 10h it may happens again
    What should I do ?
     
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    how old is the 12v battery?
     
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    replace the fob battery.
     
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    1. Replace the fob battery now (CR2032)
    2. Replace the 12V battery if (1) does not help
     
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    Maybe around 3 year I thought cos since I bought the
    Car second hand from USA is about 2 year already
     
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    have you checked the tyre pressure? many of us run at 42/40.
     
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    when it error it give me the message " Caution : The transmission P lock mechanism is abnormal. Park your car on a flat surface, and fully apply the hand brake.

    what dose it mean problem about exactly ?
     
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    You have said the 12V battery is still working normally, but how have you concluded that? What testing did you do to arrive at this conclusion?

    Just to be sure, can you run the testing in this post: Weird stuff happening? MPGs dropping? Test The Battery, and report the three voltages back to us. In addition when you are in IG-ON mode put your headlights on full beam and report the time it takes for the voltage to drop below 11.0V. If the voltage does not drop below 11.0V within 2 minutes, just report what the voltage was at the 2 minute mark.

    The voltages we want to see are:

    1) ACC mode:
    2) IG-ON mode:
    3) Time taken to reach 11.0V: or Voltage at 2 min mark:
    4) READY mode:

    Thanks and hope that helps.
     
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    Other Prius owners have seen that message. Usually that is a false warning caused by a failing 12V battery.
     
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    Now I have change the 12v battery it work normal but I hope the problem can be fixed by that
    Anyways very thanks you all of friends here very appriceated
     
    #17 Vanne, May 3, 2014
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    pleasure.;)
     
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    My question just Want to know 12v battery for
    Prius 2004 have 2 kind is one have battery water and
    No water . Beacused after I changes it from original
    Battery it have the small hole on the top and it not. The
    Same size . Please help clearify for me pls
     
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    not sure what you have for batteries there. without more info, i would go with the dealer spec. is there a vent tube on both?
     
    #20 bisco, May 3, 2014
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