Ray Iannuzzelli cost per mile PHP vs Volt

Interesting... If you use the vehicle for longer ranges, the cost savings literally disappear at certain ranges, presuming that you do not use a charging station and fall back on the gas engine part over time.

 

Re: Ray Iannuzzelli cost per mile PIP vs Volt

Fairly good comparison, the numbers are a little screwed up, but crossovers seem about right.. I would say that narrow range is where most americans drive. IIRC the volt gets charged at an average of 27 miles. In the higher mileage area where the prius phv is more efficient, drivesr might be better off just buying a prius and choosing the options they want, electric miles are a small percentage here.

Different choices are good. some phv drivers like john1702 seem to charge twice a day and use very little gas.

 

If only you could get a PIP with the same battery as the volt.

 

Re: Ray Iannuzzelli cost per mile PIP vs Volt

In theory, owners would always buy the car optimized for them.

It will be interesting if PIP owners have very short or very long commutes, where the car is superior.

 

This is very interesting. I have long thought that Volt was a clear winner, because the range where it has advantage -- 16-65 miles -- is exactly where most everyone drives in a day. And this is why we read of Volt owners getting 1,000 to 5,000 and even 11,000 miles on a single tank of gas. That simply won't happen with most Plug-in Prius owners.

But my commute is 85 miles roundtrip, and my forward-thinking employer won't provide electricity at work. So my Plug-in Prius is the most efficient choice after all.

 

That assumes you pay the average price for electricity. If your electricity is cheaper than average, the range of advantage of the Volt gets larger, and vice versa. Around $0.19 / kWh, the advantage of the Volt is gone altogether.

Of course, that also depends on price of Gasoline. A more useful chart would show when each car was a better deal based on ratio of gas / electric prices, and miles traveled.

 

Re: Ray Iannuzzelli cost per mile PIP vs Volt

Remember to exclude CA, where people unable to charge a PiP will buy them for the HOV lane access.

 

i wonder what would change if they had the same size body/ cu. ft. capacity?

 

Re: Ray Iannuzzelli cost per mile PIP vs Volt

Right, let's try to ignore the irony that California is encouraging people to buy a car which gains its environmental improvements by being charged with electricity, while at the same time pricing electricity so high, that it is encouraging them to use it like a regular car (not charged), thus wasting the entire potential of the car...

 

Re: Ray Iannuzzelli cost per mile PIP vs Volt

I think that he`s been copying my posts herein and elsewhere. I`ve been postulating this for the better part of two years now.

 

Great analysis!
However, the reliability of those two cars should be very different I guess. Look at the historical records. I would be much more comfortable on Toyota side...