Received my invitation to order a Model 3 today

will they hold your place in line?

what are they offering you, and at what price?

 

Ordered one Jan of 17, haven't heard a word, and you can order one, now, and you are on a Toyota site trashing toyota, and they have been orderable for well over a year, and you were invited to order, a Tesla, wile...

Tesla stock is dropping, and Tesla has a cash flow problem, and a safety problem, and a production problem, but Toyota doesn't

 

tesla stock is stable compared to some. look at toyota stock, nothing special.

 

nice!

 

congrats man!

pretty sad that Toyota will be very last to the party

 

you never know, there are a lot of manufacturers without bees outside california.

 

almost all have tentative plans or actual plans in the near future though

 

yeah, i know, but really meaningless imo. toyota doesn't hype like other companies.

 

found this weird sketchy website What electric car to buy? The only list of BEV models of all EV brands.

love ya bisco but not sure that last phrase is accurate

 

me neither, but i'll give toyota the benefit of the doubt for now, since there's no money to be made on bev's yet.

 

2000$ is an order, a reservation is free.
If you want to order a Toyota, order one, you don't reserve it, and the toyota factory isn't under investigation for accidents that are claimed to be alternate reality.



Bye.

Hater.

 

wow

 

Know your audience. Ordinary consumers aren't paying attention and couldn't care less.

Know your audience. They aren't interested in an early-adopter party or even being first.

Selling something in high-volume that's both profitable & sustainable is a huge challenge. The path for Toyota is very different from that of Tesla. Each could achieve the same criteria just fine, but premature celebrations aren't a good idea. There's a lot of resistance to come. Changing the status quo is far more difficult than appealing to early adopters.

 

delusional

 

Uninformed.

That's my response to your claim, which is far better than what I've dealt with in the past... denial. I asked the fanboys "Who is the market for Volt?" countless times over the years. Being well informed, I was well aware they were just leaving in the moment seeing sales only from an early-adopter perspective. The problem of subsidies going away and audience changing was outright dismissed too.

Those fanboys absolutely refused to acknowledge the flat sales (consistently between 1,600 and 1,700 monthly) would become an incredible challenge to grow when faced with innovator's dilemma. Sure enough, that's exactly what happened. GM targeted that same group for the gen-2 upgrade. The result has been a drop in sales instead of the much needed growth. Oops!

Toyota is running a business that depends upon reliable profit. That means delivering a product that's simple to sells to the masses, those mainstream consumers who have very different purchase priorities than the fanboys. They want a nice balance for a good price. That's why Prius has been such a great on-going offering.

The introduction of a plug brings about the necessity to carefully evaluate what their ordinary showroom shoppers will find a draw when doing comparisons at the dealer. That's a drastically different approach from what Tesla is doing... a non-legacy automaker with a limited product choice and basically no showroom.