Reconditioning Experience with Hybrid Automotive's Prolong System

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  1. edthefox5

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    What did you get get for your Prolong please I’m in the same boat just got my new battery’s from 2k so will be selling mine too.

    I have the original Prolong uses light bulbs.
     
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    I had the newest stuff. I bought the charger on Craig's List for $150 and bought the dis charger from prolong. I think I had $450 in everything and sold it for $450.00 on CL.....
    I tried it and it ruined my battery... bought a few reconditioned cells from prolong and they didn't work.... got tired of the crap and bought a new battery. Wish I would have done it in the first place, Prolong kept telling me it wasn't their fault..... and that I was doing something wrong.....
     
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    I’m confused

    What charger did u buy on CL.?

    And what discharger did u buy?
     
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    The round green charger on CL and the dis charger from prolong with the digital readout....all new last fall.
    Sold both units for $450.00 luckily I bought the charger for $150....... both looked like new......
    Prolong Deluxe Reconditioning Package | Hybrid Automotive
     
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    I got it thanks. Good deal on both.
     
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    I've reconditioned two hybrid batteries successfully with Prolong and individual module chargers. I keep modules only that have similar capacity, usually above 6000 mAh. After reconditioning whole pack followed by reconditioning/replacing individual modules that are low-capacity, I run Prolong charge 4 more hours for form charging, then reconnect and activate the plug 24 hours to allow the 14 pack voltages to balance by itself. In the morning it's good as new, no need to buy a new hybrid battery. Saves hundreds of dollars.
     
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    As the name implies that only prolongs the life. It is not as good as new. @edthefox5 just replaced the battery he extended with the Prolong system with the kit of new cells and he has reported a big difference made by a new pack.
     
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    And if you go out of town make sure you have charger and extra batteries and all of your tools in case (good as new) used tired battery goes out in the middle of no-where.
     
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    I don't think they just suddenly fail, do they? I thought it was a degradation over time. All be it a shorter time, with a reconditioned pack, but not catastrophically.
     
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    yes they fail all the time when they fail they throw the red triangle of death and put the car in limp mode. Wont get far on that.
    or they fail and immobilize the car. Posts are full of those on this site.

    And too Prodigy's point my new NPB battery's are no comparison to my prolonged battery. Twice the power and my ac is now blowing much much colder too. Night and day. Blue bars do not move.

    With a prolonged battery you dont notice the degradation over time unless you make note of the energy monitor. yes the car will get you frpm point a to b there will be much less power. What I was seeing towards the end there was imminent death.
     
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    NiMH batteries, just just any other type of battery, have a fixed useful life. When that life is reached, battery is dead.
    What we do to extend the life of a hybrid battery are two things:
    1) Detect defective batteries and replace them with working ones. This is quick and fast. This is done by doing a load test on each module and replacing the ones that drain voltage level fast under load. This method of prolonging the life of hybrid batteries is quick and fast, and shops who have access to a huge inventory modules may be able to find you replacements with still good amount of life left in it.
    2) Another method is to "regenerate" the cells inside the modules. NiMH batteries such as those found in a Prius, suffer from voltage depression or the memory effect in which the active material not utilized in shallow cycling undergoes some change of state, which renders it unable to take part in the discharge until a full discharge–charge cycle has been carried out. The memory effect is caused by how the metal and electrolyte react to form a salt (and the way that salt then dissolves again and metal is replaced on the electrodes when you recharge it). In our ideal battery cell, we would want a uniform coating of small crystals of salt on a perfect metal surface, but that’s not what we get in the real world. Crystal formation is very complex, as is the way metals deposit during recharge. These imperfections mainly depend on the charge state of the battery to start with, the temperature, charge voltage and charging current. Over time, the imperfections in one charge cycle can cause the same in the next charge cycle, and so on, and our battery picks up some bad memories. (Ref: various works of Dr Anand Bhatt, Professor Maria Forsyth, Professor Ray Withers, Professor Guoxiu Wang).
     
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    Or just get a new battery...........
     
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    Order a second planet earth as well while you're at it.
     
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    I'm sure I destroyed the planet when I got a new battery. Guess what.... I don't care.
    I have plenty of solar panels (20 kw) (net metering) on my property including solar hot water.
    Lake full of bass and catfish that I eat.
     
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    Does anyone here have a deluxe kit with the charger and discharger? I'm interested to buy one.
     
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    I am sure @jeff652 has many. His website is hybridautomotive.com.

    ( You did say ANYBODY here... ;) )
     
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    has anyone had this issue

    brand new discharger only worked for one cycle
     

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    While a picture is sometimes worth more than a thousand words, it just isn't in this case. Can you elaborate on how the discharger is not working?

    Have you called HA to see if they can help?
     
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    I agree with dolj. The picture shows a discharger that is working normally. Once a discharger gets down to the target it goes into idle mode, something shown here by the illuminated light. When a discharger reaches the target and flips to idle, there is a rebound upward of the battery voltage as shown in your picture. Directly from the discharger user guide, "NOTE: The battery voltage will ‘rebound’ or rise after the discharge process is complete. This is normal and should be expected."

    If you have doubts about your system, please call Hybrid Automotive. They'll work with you and explain things.
     
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    the discharger has an issue hybrid auto was contacted and unit has to be sent back
     
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