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Replacing transmission oil

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by franken1313, May 21, 2017.

  1. franken1313

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    I'm trying to replace the transmission oil but I cannot undo the drain screw. Is it ok to use a digital torque wrench?

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    A torque wrench is normally used to get a desired amount of torque in tightening something. To loosen, you can use whatever you want

    I find it useful to get a long metal cheater bar/pipe to put over whatever you're using to give you more extension and additional torque, that should help you loosen it
     
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    So I'll be ok? I'm worried about breaking the screw still inside the transmission

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    It's in there pretty tight, so you'll need a bit of muscle if you're not using a long extension breaker bar. It shouldn't break.
     
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    Don't forget.. lefty loosey, righty tighty.
     
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    (this is why I always advise to open the fill hole before the drain hole, if you drain everything out, THEN discover you can't add more, you will hate yourself)
     
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    A breaker bar should be used to break tight fasteners loose, not a torque wrench. Using the torque wrench risks breaking it, or throwing it out of calibration.
     
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    +1 on the breaker bar. A torque wrench isn't made for that duty and costs a lot more to replace. But you might want to use it for putting the plugs back in. 29 ft/pounds, iirc.

    I changed mine yesterday using a 1/2" drive breaker bar. I didn't need a pipe extension, but both plugs gave a couple good snaps before coming loose. And, @JimboPalmer, that's a really important tip about doing the fill plug first. Next week, we'll see how it goes with wifey's 2007 with 118k miles on it.
     
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    I don't know if the Gen 2 is similar, but I found using an extension between the socket and the breaker bar helped gain some clearance to be able to gain leverage on the fill/drain plugs.
     
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    Me too. Especially the fill plug, I think.
     
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    I just want to make sure that what you call the "drain screw" is the correct drain plug.

    The 2G transaxle has a circular drain plug for the ATF with a 10 mm hex hole in the center, hence you need to use a 10 mm hex socket key on a 1/2" breaker bar to remove it.

    The transaxle has another drain plug, closer to the engine, with a hex head intended for a 24 mm socket. That drain plug is for the inverter/transaxle coolant.

    As previously suggested, make sure you have located and can loosen the ATF fill plug on the side of the transaxle facing the radiator (which needs a 24 mm socket) before you remove the ATF drain plug.

    The correct tightening torque is 29 ft.-lb. You may have to exert substantial loosening torque to get the drain plug loose, hence the suggestion that you use a breaker bar at minimum, and ideally extend its length with a length of pipe or some other cheater device to improve your leverage.
     
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    Will a torque wrench do 29 ft lb to the left so I can untighten the bolt ?

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    Just because one Can do something, doesn't mean that one Should do something.

    Breaker bars are relatively inexpensive, if you don't want to get one, use a regular ratchet with a cheater (pipe) instead of using your torque wrench.
     
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    It may take well over 29 foot pounds to loosen the plug. Mine felt like at least 60.
     
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    DO NOT USE THE TORQUE WRENCH -- YOU'RE GOING TO BREAK IT!

    As others have said, you need a breaker bar (or ratchet with extension) and 10mm allen socket. Why do you keep wanting to use the torque wrench?
     
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    I know, torque wrenches are typically longer and it's tempting to use them as a breaker bar. I'll add my voice to the chorus--don't do it.

    If you do, buy a new torque wrench because you've just created an expensive breaker bar.
     
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    Clearance is pretty tight, it is doubtful you'll be able to get a power tool in there.
     
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